AlexWangSecondPaper 2 - 28 Jul 2012 - Main.EbenMoglen
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Digital Expression and Exclusionary Rights | | In thinking about digital expression as intellectual “property,” I think there are two interesting observations worth pointing out. The first is that digital media lacks the fundamental aspect of physical property that underlies the traditional view of property rights as exclusionary rights, digital expression lacks scarcity. This raises the question of why the concept of ownership should exist at all for virtually inexhaustible, non-rivalrous goods. The second is that the granting of “limited” monopolies to incentivize creation of future digital expressions assumes the production model of separate producers and consumers and high fixed costs. A collaborative production model where each producer produces for herself and shares her products to everyone else may do better. | |
> > | Surely there's something
new that can be said after almost thirty years of constructing
digital commons? This introduction states the obvious and draws the
conclusion that something "may" be true. In the meantime free
software transformed the IT industry and Wikipedia changed daily life
for every literate person on earth. Start here instead with your
central idea, which is not the old part we've all written about
before but the new one your giving us for the first
time. | | What is property? | |
< < | The Blackstonian view of property is that “the sole and despotic dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in total exclusion of the right of any other individual in the universe.” The “bundle of sticks” view sees property as a “social institution that structures people’s relations with each other and the state regarding the control and transfer of scarce resources.” What is important from the Blackstonian view is exclusion and what is important from the modern view is idea of scarce resources. They are interrelated and their relation underlies the traditional view of physical property rights as exclusionary rights. We have the idea of property rights in things as exclusionary rights because these things are scarce. I exclude you not because the thing is mine (that would be conclusory and circular) but because there would be less for me if I did not. I exclude you because the loss from not excluding you would be higher than the cost of exclusion. And it is not that things are rivalrous that is the problem but that they are scarce. Even if resources are non-rivalrous, there is still a need for exclusion insofar as they are scare. We may not be able to exclude others, but it would be better if we could. This is the tragedy of the commons – scarce, non-rivalrous goods. Insofar as property rights are exclusionary rights, the underlying property must be scarce. | > > | The Blackstonian view of property is that “the sole and despotic dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in total exclusion of the right of any other individual in the universe.” The “bundle of sticks” view
Those aren't the same.
You might have actually pointed to Blackstone if you needed him for
something, but if the something you needed him for was the idea that
property is a bundle of rights you didn't find it there, in the quote
you didn't link from a document you almost certainly didn't
read.
sees property as a “social institution that structures people’s relations with each other and the state regarding the control and transfer of scarce resources.”
You smuggled "scarcity"
in there. Electrical power is property, and it is made of the same
electrons that your digital bits are. Are electrons scarce unless
they're not? If you think this part through carefully, you'll find
something important that is presently not quite so clear to you.
What is important from the Blackstonian view is exclusion and what is important from the modern view is idea of scarce resources. They are interrelated and their relation underlies the traditional view of physical property rights as exclusionary rights. We have the idea of property rights in things as exclusionary rights because these things are scarce. I exclude you not because the thing is mine (that would be conclusory and circular) but because there would be less for me if I did not.
Not necessarily. In the
first place, the legal institutions don't depend on motive. In the
second place, your attribution of motive is too narrow. A few
moments' thought will reveal counter-examples concerning both realty
and chattels. This piece of loose reasoning is at the center of your
argument, which means that more fundamental revision is
necessary.
I exclude you because the loss from not excluding you would be higher than the cost of exclusion.
Evidently false.
And it is not that things are rivalrous that is the problem but that they are scarce. Even if resources are non-rivalrous, there is still a need for exclusion insofar as they are scare. We may not be able to exclude others, but it would be better if we could. This is the tragedy of the commons – scarce, non-rivalrous goods.
Excuse me? Did you find
that in Hardin, and if so, where? The classic examples of
over-appropriation of natural resources involve rivalrous uses. Even
if you think it's somehow appropriate not to acknowledge my work, or
that of Yochai Benkler, Larry Lessig, or any of my other colleagues
and comrades, one would think Elinor Ostrom would be noticeable, by
virtue of winning the Nobel Prize and all....
Insofar as property rights are exclusionary rights, the underlying property must be scarce.
"Must" in a logical
sense, in an ethical sense, in a rhetorical sense?
| | No Scarcity=No Property | |
< < | Ideas are obviously not scarce, but sometimes the physical expressions of ideas can be scarce. Digital expressions of ideas, however, are not scarce, or at least should not be because once they exist, there is virtually no cost to create them. The marginal cost of producing a copy is zero. Thus digital expressions, although non-rivalrous, are potentially inexhaustible because they can be costlessly made. There is no tragedy of the commons here. But if something is not scarce, why make it excludable, namely why is it property at all? | > > | Ideas are obviously not scarce,
Depends where.
but sometimes the physical expressions of ideas can be scarce. Digital expressions of ideas, however, are not scarce, or at least should not be because once they exist, there is virtually no cost to create them. The marginal cost of producing a copy is zero. Thus digital expressions, although non-rivalrous, are potentially inexhaustible because they can be costlessly made. There is no tragedy of the commons here. But if something is not scarce, why make it excludable, namely why is it property at all? | | The argument for enforcement of intellectual “property” rights because it is property seems to get it backwards. The argument goes: (1) intellectual property is property; (2) the creators have property rights; and (3) the right to property is a fundamental, constitutional right that the government must enforce. But the scarcity that underlies the right of exclusion in property does not naturally exist. In fact, intellectual “property” is only scare because the government legally imposes an artificial scarcity by establishing a monopoly. The government enforcement of exclusionary property rights is really its creation.
Incentives
But even rejecting that intellectual property is “property,” there is an independent argument for government imposed monopolies – the incentive argument. The argument goes: if we do not limit the naturally unlimited things that exist today, no one will create them for tomorrow (which we will also have to limit so that there is something for the day after tomorrow). This seems like a facially valid assumption – future earnings from exclusion will fund present investment. Every firm operates under this model and the higher the fixed costs, the more important reliable future earnings. | |
< < | There are two problematic assumptions in this model. One is that the producer produces only to sell to others and two, producers create from scratch. Sometimes people make things for their own personal use. They are the producer and the consumer and the cost of production is outweighed by the utility of personal consumption. Here, there is no incentive problem. Additionally, a lot of times what is useful to one person is useful to a lot of other people, and if the product is digital, the producer can share it costlessly with all others. More complex things that require lots of fixed input cost might be a problem. Here, personal utility might not be able to overcome the production costs. But in a collective commons system, where everyone agrees to share, namely where producers do not have to produce from scratch, the cost of production decreases significantly. For anyone to be willing to produce something, the personal utility need only be higher than the marginal cost of adding onto what already exists. This is model of open source software and it works incredibly well. | > > | There are two problematic assumptions in this model. One is that the producer produces only to sell to others and two, producers create from scratch. Sometimes people make things for their own personal use. They are the producer and the consumer and the cost of production is outweighed by the utility of personal consumption. Here, there is no incentive problem.
But what has that to do
with the distribution monopolies created by copyright? Is this whole
supposedly big-deal objection about the theoretical significance of
the potential liability for infringing patent claims by "making" for
personal use, which has no natural history whatever? If so, so what?
Additionally, a lot of times what is useful to one person is useful to a lot of other people, and if the product is digital, the producer can share it costlessly with all others. More complex things that require lots of fixed input cost might be a problem. Here, personal utility might not be able to overcome the production costs. But in a collective commons system, where everyone agrees to share, namely where producers do not have to produce from scratch, the cost of production decreases significantly. For anyone to be willing to produce something, the personal utility need only be higher than the marginal cost of adding onto what already exists. This is model of open source software and it works incredibly well.
Why "incredibly"? The
important point would be that it works credibly well. But as you
don't provide any facts or reveal to the reader any obvious way to
find the facts, and as you don't bother to point out any examples
that will be familiar to the reader in daily life, whether it is
credible or incredible the reader cannot learn from
you.
It is true that if you want to create from scratch to sell to others, you need a monopoly on your product to recoup the costs,
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< < | It is true that if you want to create from scratch to sell to others, you need a monopoly on your product to recoup the costs, but there is no need to produce from scratch. Some things, like software, can be transferred costlessly from one person to another. If the fixed cost is zero, the price should only be the variable cost, which may not even be passed on to other consumers if the utility of personal consumption exceeds it. Imposing property rights on digital expressions may actually disincentivize future production, because it increases the costs of production – either do it from scratch or pay for the inputs. | > > | Also evidently false. The Free World does that under copyleft terms all the time.
but there is no need to produce from scratch. Some things, like software, can be transferred costlessly from one person to another. If the fixed cost is zero, the price should only be the variable cost, which may not even be passed on to other consumers if the utility of personal consumption exceeds it. Imposing property rights on digital expressions may actually disincentivize future production, because it increases the costs of production – either do it from scratch or pay for the inputs.
This is confusion. | | Conclusion | | From an ex ante view, digital expressions should not be excludable. Having a collective commons systems may actually incentivize more creation because of lowered input costs. | |
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This seems to me preparation for writing the essay. Most of the
ideas here are expressed less clearly than they are in the essential sources you
don't mention and may not have consulted. (The work done by my co-authors
in the
dotCommunist Manifesto
deserves that praise, even if my own contributions do
not.)
You didn't need Blackstone for this exercise (which makes your
not reading him more appropriate than your quoting from but not
linking him). But you did need to read, consider, and discuss the
views of other thinkers who have moved the ball pretty far forward
from where you're leaving it here.
I think the best route to improvement, then, is to focus more clearly
on the new ideas you are contributing atop the foundation already in
place in the writings of others you can link to. Then your outline
can briefly state the principles already worked through by others,
and present your own new contributions as the essay's central theme.
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AlexWangSecondPaper 1 - 25 Apr 2012 - Main.AlexWang
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Digital Expression and Exclusionary Rights
-- By AlexWang - 25 Apr 2012
In thinking about digital expression as intellectual “property,” I think there are two interesting observations worth pointing out. The first is that digital media lacks the fundamental aspect of physical property that underlies the traditional view of property rights as exclusionary rights, digital expression lacks scarcity. This raises the question of why the concept of ownership should exist at all for virtually inexhaustible, non-rivalrous goods. The second is that the granting of “limited” monopolies to incentivize creation of future digital expressions assumes the production model of separate producers and consumers and high fixed costs. A collaborative production model where each producer produces for herself and shares her products to everyone else may do better.
What is property?
The Blackstonian view of property is that “the sole and despotic dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in total exclusion of the right of any other individual in the universe.” The “bundle of sticks” view sees property as a “social institution that structures people’s relations with each other and the state regarding the control and transfer of scarce resources.” What is important from the Blackstonian view is exclusion and what is important from the modern view is idea of scarce resources. They are interrelated and their relation underlies the traditional view of physical property rights as exclusionary rights. We have the idea of property rights in things as exclusionary rights because these things are scarce. I exclude you not because the thing is mine (that would be conclusory and circular) but because there would be less for me if I did not. I exclude you because the loss from not excluding you would be higher than the cost of exclusion. And it is not that things are rivalrous that is the problem but that they are scarce. Even if resources are non-rivalrous, there is still a need for exclusion insofar as they are scare. We may not be able to exclude others, but it would be better if we could. This is the tragedy of the commons – scarce, non-rivalrous goods. Insofar as property rights are exclusionary rights, the underlying property must be scarce.
No Scarcity=No Property
Ideas are obviously not scarce, but sometimes the physical expressions of ideas can be scarce. Digital expressions of ideas, however, are not scarce, or at least should not be because once they exist, there is virtually no cost to create them. The marginal cost of producing a copy is zero. Thus digital expressions, although non-rivalrous, are potentially inexhaustible because they can be costlessly made. There is no tragedy of the commons here. But if something is not scarce, why make it excludable, namely why is it property at all?
The argument for enforcement of intellectual “property” rights because it is property seems to get it backwards. The argument goes: (1) intellectual property is property; (2) the creators have property rights; and (3) the right to property is a fundamental, constitutional right that the government must enforce. But the scarcity that underlies the right of exclusion in property does not naturally exist. In fact, intellectual “property” is only scare because the government legally imposes an artificial scarcity by establishing a monopoly. The government enforcement of exclusionary property rights is really its creation.
Incentives
But even rejecting that intellectual property is “property,” there is an independent argument for government imposed monopolies – the incentive argument. The argument goes: if we do not limit the naturally unlimited things that exist today, no one will create them for tomorrow (which we will also have to limit so that there is something for the day after tomorrow). This seems like a facially valid assumption – future earnings from exclusion will fund present investment. Every firm operates under this model and the higher the fixed costs, the more important reliable future earnings.
There are two problematic assumptions in this model. One is that the producer produces only to sell to others and two, producers create from scratch. Sometimes people make things for their own personal use. They are the producer and the consumer and the cost of production is outweighed by the utility of personal consumption. Here, there is no incentive problem. Additionally, a lot of times what is useful to one person is useful to a lot of other people, and if the product is digital, the producer can share it costlessly with all others. More complex things that require lots of fixed input cost might be a problem. Here, personal utility might not be able to overcome the production costs. But in a collective commons system, where everyone agrees to share, namely where producers do not have to produce from scratch, the cost of production decreases significantly. For anyone to be willing to produce something, the personal utility need only be higher than the marginal cost of adding onto what already exists. This is model of open source software and it works incredibly well.
It is true that if you want to create from scratch to sell to others, you need a monopoly on your product to recoup the costs, but there is no need to produce from scratch. Some things, like software, can be transferred costlessly from one person to another. If the fixed cost is zero, the price should only be the variable cost, which may not even be passed on to other consumers if the utility of personal consumption exceeds it. Imposing property rights on digital expressions may actually disincentivize future production, because it increases the costs of production – either do it from scratch or pay for the inputs.
Conclusion
From an ex post view, digital expressions should not be excludable. Exclusionary rights should only exist for things that are scare and digital expressions are not naturally scarce – they can be copied ad infinitum at no cost.
From an ex ante view, digital expressions should not be excludable. Having a collective commons systems may actually incentivize more creation because of lowered input costs.
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