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Nine months after graduating from CLS, 78.3% of students are employed by a law firm, while only 4.3% work in public interest. But why such dramatic flocking to the firms? The pay is better, but the hours are worse, the work is more tedious, and it could be years before young associates see the inside of a courtroom. | |
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> | One thing driving the masses to Big Law is three years of acculturation. From the first day of law school students are assimilated into firm culture. Thurman Arnold wrote of organizations that “the environment puts great pressure on [] individuals to conform to what is expected of them in terms both of practical results and the representation of sentimental ideals.” (350) So, too, do law schools put pressure on students to conform to firm culture. | | | What follows is a functional analysis of law school. For simplicity’s sake I have broken the study into two discrete categories (actions and beliefs), although I realize in practice these categories often have overlapping effects. | | | Law school is adept at shaping the way students act. Those actions will become habits that students continue once they reach Big Law.
The Curve | |
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> | The curve is one of the first mechanisms to influence new students’ thoughts and behavior. Through it, students are effectively told they will no longer be measured by merely their own merits, but also by the merits of others. In subtle ways the curve thus affects students’ interactions with others. Suddenly, helping fellow students becomes much less attractive, because by doing so you may decrease your own odds of success. | | | | |
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> | The you-against-others mode of behavior will become a large part of firm culture, too. With only a few partner positions available, associates have an incentive to look out for themselves. This mentality will also play a role in associates’ legal practice, since lawyers are judged not only on the strengths of their own case, but also on the weaknesses of their opponents’. | | | Sacrificing Relationships
ILs quickly find that law school’s pace is frenetic, and the work all-consuming. It doesn’t have to be that way. Given that law schools must have a (notoriously undemanding) third year, the IL year could be relaxed, and the workload spread out more evenly. Yet, as suggested by Adam Carlis, having little free time in law school gets students accustomed to having little free time when they go to firms. By then, sacrificing personal relationships for Big Law will be the norm. | | | The lesson students take away is that things can make up for what is missing in their life. We can already see the beginning of this with student attendance at firm receptions. While these receptions are boring, people go anyway because they will get things (food, alcohol, and toys). This reasoning will eventually carry itself into many students’ career choice. While working for a firm will be dull, people choose to do so anyway because they will get lots of money, which they can use to buy even more food, alcohol, and toys.
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> | Nine months after graduating from CLS, 78.3% of students are employed by a law firm, while only 4.3% work in public interest. But why such dramatic flocking to the firms? The pay is better, but the hours are worse, the work is more tedious, and it could be years before young associates see the inside of a courtroom. | | | | |
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> | One thing driving the masses to Big Law is three years of acculturation. From the first day of law school, students are assimilated into firm culture. Thurman Arnold wrote of organizations “the environment puts great pressure on [] individuals to conform to what is expected of them in terms both of practical results and the representation of sentimental ideals.” (350) So, too, do law schools put pressure on students to conform to firm culture. | | | | |
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Law school is adept at shaping the way students act. Those actions will become habits that students continue once they reach Big Law. | | | The Curve | |
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> | The curve is one of the first mechanisms to influence new students’ thoughts and behavior. Through it, students are effectively told they will no longer be measured by merely their own merits, but also by the merits of others. In subtle ways the curve thus affects students’ interactions with others. Suddenly, helping fellow students becomes much less attractive, because by doing you may decrease your own odds of success. | | | | |
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> | The you-against-others mode of behavior will become a large part of firm culture, too. With only a few partner positions available, associates have an incentive to look out for themselves. This mentality will play a role in associates’ legal practice, since lawyers are judged not only on the strengths of their own case, but also on the weaknesses of their opponents’. | | | Sacrificing Relationships | |
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> | ILs quickly find that law school’s pace is frenetic, and the work all-consuming. It doesn’t have to be that way. Given that law schools must have a (notoriously undemanding) third year, the IL year could be relaxed, and the workload spread out more evenly. Yet, as suggested by Adam Carlis, having little free time in law school gets students accustomed to having little free time when they go to firms. By then, sacrificing personal relationships for Big Law will be the norm. | | | | |
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< | No person would willingly sign up for a lifetime of sacrifice, so the sacrifice is always framed as a temporary one: it’ll just e like this until IL is over; then, it’ll just be like this until law school is over; then, it will just be like this until I make partner. By framing it thus people lose sight of how large a sacrifice they are actually making. The practice of choosing work over family becomes ingrained without us realizing what is happening. | >
> | Few people would willingly sign up for a lifetime of work, so the sacrifice is always framed as a temporary one: it’ll just be like this until IL is over; then, until law school is over; then, until I make partner. Young lawyers become ingrained in choosing work over relationships before they realize what is happening. | | | | |
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In order to fully assimilate to firm life, it is necessary to not only change student’s actions, but also the beliefs that inform those actions. The indoctrination begins early, even before the first class is held. | | | The Application Process | |
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> | In my experience, many students choose law schools based in large part on the US News rankings. Picking a law school based on ranking is easy: someone has already done all the work for you. US News has complex mathematical formulas to prove their work is objective, so why would anyone pick the #10 school when #5 is clearly better? | | | | |
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> | But just as students identify schools via their relevant numbers, so, too, will they come to identify themselves by those numbers. Again, this indoctrination starts with the application process. When applying to law schools, only two numbers matter: GPA and LSAT. Firms will later reinforce that identification with numbers, since firms mainly care about the applicant’s GPA. All the things that used to define a person (hobbies, etc) no longer matter. | | | | |
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> | This belief – that numbers define us – is crucial to being integrated into firm life. That is because the one thing firms hold over many graduating students is another number: salary. If firms can get students to judge their self-worth by how much money they make, then they have a crucial advantage in getting those students to work for them despite all of the obvious drawbacks. | | | The Culture of Spending | |
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> | Students are willing to endure the drudgery of the week by looking forward to the debauchery of the weekend. Come Thursday, students flock to Bar Review (conveniently sponsored by CLS) to spend their money, get drunk, and forget their lives. This ritual becomes habit, and when new associates finish their first horrible week at Big Law, they know exactly how to forget their troubles. | | | | |
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> | The lesson students take away is that things can make up for what is missing in their life. We can already see the beginning of this with student attendance at firm receptions. While these receptions are boring, people go anyway because they will get things (food, alcohol, and toys). This reasoning will eventually carry itself into many students’ career choice. While working for a firm will be dull, people choose to do so anyway because they will get lots of money, which they can use to buy even more food, alcohol, and toys. | | | Concluding Thoughts | |
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> | While some law students do legitimately enter CLS planning to work for a big firm and never look back, many more come in with vague plans about “doing good” while “supporting themselves.” By the end of law school, however, the vast majority of people will have agreed to work for a firm. Many will likely find they have ended up in Big Law not because of some purposeful path they set out on, but rather because they got swept along in the tide of CLS. It was easy; moreover, it was what their law school experience was designed to have them do. | | | | |
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> | Nine months after graduating from CLS, 78.3% of students find themselves employed in law firms, vs. the 4.3% of students who find themselves employed in public interest. So why such dramatic flocking to law firms? The pay is better, but the hours are worse. The work is more tedious. And it could be years before young associates see the inside of a courtroom. | | | | |
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> | What seems to be driving the masses to the law firms are years of acculturation. From the first day of law school (or even before), law students are assimilated into firm culture. The incentive for law schools to do so is clear: a partner at Cravath can donate much more money than a public defender in the Bronx. | | | Thurman Arnold wrote of organizations “the environment puts great pressure on [] individuals to conform to what is expected of them in both of practical results and the representation of sentimental ideals.” So, too, do law schools put pressure on students to conform to firm culture, both in their actions and in their beliefs.*
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Thinking in Numbers
The fact that law schools are ranked, and that decisions about which law school to attend are in large part based on those rankings, introduce us to a way of thinking will become more and more dominant in both law school and law firms. When others assign a number to everything, you don't have to do the thinking - someone else has already done it for you.
Numbers as Identity to Selves
Numbers will also come to reflect how we think of ourselves. First it is identification with the ranking of the school we attend. Then it is our GPA. Finally, it is how much money we make.
Numbers as Identity to Others
Law school begins the make us think of us as numbers. The two most important things to a law school is our GPA and our LSAT -- all the rest is fluff. Firms reinforce our identification with numbers. All those factors that used to be important (hobbies, interests, etc) don't matter to firms. They don't want to know whether we play the oboe; they want to know what our GPA is. | >
> | The Curve
The curve is one of the first big shocks of coming to law school. With it, we are effectively told that we won’t just be measured on our own merits, but also on the merits of others. In subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways the curve thus affects our interactions with others. Suddenly, helping others becomes much less attractive, because by doing so we are decreasing our own odds of success. This mode of thinking (self before others) will seem normal by the time we reach the law firm, where (since only a fraction of people can make partner) we will once again be measured as against other people. | | | | |
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Law firms, like law schools, are ranked. Again, we can make our decision based on someone else's arbitrary numerical assignment. The fact that we make a life decision (where to work) based on numbers reinforces their value in our own lives: they aren't arbitrary, they are meaningful. And if they are meaningful when describing a firm, they must be meaningful when describing me, too. | >
> | I doubt the you-against-the-world mentality is accidental. It is helpful to firms, since in the legal world, lawyers will be judge not only on the strengths of their own case, but also on the weaknesses of their opponents’. There are other ways of practicing law, but the adversarial system is the one Big Law uses, and so it is the one law students (and associates) are socialized into. | | | Sacrificing Relationships | |
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Law school doesn't need to be so time-consuming. Do we really need to read that many cases on personal jurisdiction? But having so little free time in law school gets us used to having little free time when we go to firms. By that time, sacrificing personal relationships for The Law will be standard.
I'll Do It Tomorrow
The sacrifice is always framed as a temporary one: it'll just be like this until IL is over; then, it'll just be like this until law school is over; then, it will just be like this until I make partner. By framing it thus we lose sight of how big a sacrifice we are actually making.
Forced Bonding
The pace forces us to spend time with our law students, inside and outside of the classroom. Because of the large workload, even when we're not in class, we're often thinking about law school. Because most of our experiences involve law school, the people we relate best to are other law students. We hang out more and more with law students, and then really only relate to other law students. We forget there are other lifestyles out there, and that it doesn't have to be this crazy. | >
> | ILs entering law school quickly find that the pace is frenetic, and the work is all-consuming. It doesn’t have to be that way. Ever since law schools added a (notoriously undemanding) third year, it seems more than likely that the IL year could be relaxed, and the workload spread out more evenly throughout all years. Yet, as suggested by Adam Carlis, having little free time in law school gets students accustomed to having little free time when they go to firms. By that time, sacrificing personal relationships for Big Law will be the standard. | | | | |
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We Can't All Be Winners
The curve is our first indication that we aren't in college anymore, Toto. We won't just be measured on our own merits, but also on the merits of others. (We got our first taste of this with the application process. The LSAT is designed to be a bell curve. And it's a curve that can't be beaten; no one will care if I get a 175 if by some freak accident everyone else that year gets a 176). | | | | |
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In subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways the curve affects our interactions with others. In the back of our minds, helping others seems more risky, since if Classmate X gets an A, my odds of getting an A decrease. The same will be true when we get to a law firm, since only a fraction of people can make partner. | >
> | The Application Process
While colleges have unique personalities that lead students to pick one over the other, in my experience many students choose law schools based in large part on their ranking. Picking a law school based on it’s ranking is easy: someone has already done all the work of compiling information for you. They have complex mathematical formulas to prove their work is objective; given all this, why would anyone pick the #10 school when the #5 is clearly better? | | | | |
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Cycle of Spending
We go through the drudgery of every week looking forward to the debauchery of the weekend. We put up with boredom and tedium, and then reward ourselves by spending lots of money and getting drunk (thus forcefully forgetting how much our lives suck). | >
> | But just as students identify schools via their relevant numbers, so, too, will they come to identify themselves by those numbers. Again, this process starts with the application process. When applying to law schools, only two numbers matter: GPA and LSAT score. Firms will come to reinforce that identification with numbers, since when apply to firms, the only relevant factor is the applicant’s GPA. All the factors that used to be important (hobbies, skills, etc) in defining the person no longer matter. | | | | |
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Bar Review encourages this cycle absolutely | >
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This practice is just short-term delayed gratification. And is it even that gratifying? It must be; everyone else is doing it. Besides, it's better than thinking about Con Law. This gets us ready for our post-CLS life, where we will do boring, intensive work every week, and then spend lots of money and get drunk every weekend to avoid thinking about it. | >
> | The Culture of Spending
Students are willing to endure the drudgery of every week by looking forward to the debauchery of the weekend. Come Thursday, students flock to Bar Review (conveniently sponsored by CLS) to spend their money, get drunk, and forget how horrible their lives have seemed. This ritual becomes habit, and when new associates finish their first horrible week at Big Law, they know exactly how to forget about their troubles. The cycle of drudgery-indulgence-drudgery is a self-perpetuating one: associates feel they can only survive the monotony of the week by indulging in excess on the weekend, but they can only afford to indulge their habits if they continue to put up with the monotony of the workweek. | | | | |
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> | The belief law students take away from their experiences is that things – food, alcohol, and fancy toys – can make up for all that is missing in their life. We can already see the beginning of this with student attendance at firm receptions. While these receptions are boring, people go anyway because (a) their friends are going and (b) they will get things (again, food, alcohol, and toys). This reasoning will eventually carry itself into many people’s career decisions. While they recognize that working for a firm will be dull, they choose to do so anyway because (a) their friends are going to and (b) because doing so will get them lots of money, which they can use to buy even more food, alcohol, and toys. | | | Concluding Thoughts | |
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Here is my very rough outline. A caveat: I don't really know anything about firm life, and I haven't been to any firm receptions, so a lot of this is conjecture. Please let me know if I am wrong!/you have any suggestions. Thanks.
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What is driving the masses to the law firms seems to be not so much a series of well-reasoned decisions, but instead the result of years of acculturation. From the first day of law school (or even before), law students are assimilated into firm culture. The incentive for law schools to do so is clear: a partner at Cravath can donate much more money than a public defender in the Bronx. | | | | |
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The Curve
We Can't All Be Winners
The curve is our first indication that we aren't in college anymore, Toto. We won't just be measured on our own merits, but also on the merits of others. (We got our first taste of this with the application process. The LSAT is designed to be a bell curve. And it's a curve that can't be beaten; no one will care if I get a 175 if by some freak accident everyone else that year gets a 176).
The Sociology of the Curve
In subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways the curve affects our interactions with others. In the back of our minds, helping others seems more risky, since if Classmate X gets an A, my odds of getting an A decrease. The same will be true when we get to a law firm, since only a fraction of people can make partner.
Side Thoughts
Why would law firms want to discourage collaboration in this way? Is any of this how firms "want" us to behave? Or is it just a self-perpetuating cycle, that doesn't help/hurt the firm?
Sacrificing Relationships
Unnecessary Pace | >
> | Sacrificing Relationships
Unnecessary Pace | | | Law school doesn't need to be so time-consuming. Do we really need to read that many cases on personal jurisdiction? But having so little free time in law school gets us used to having little free time when we go to firms. By that time, sacrificing personal relationships for The Law will be standard. | |
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> | I'll Do It Tomorrow | | | The sacrifice is always framed as a temporary one: it'll just be like this until IL is over; then, it'll just be like this until law school is over; then, it will just be like this until I make partner. By framing it thus we lose sight of how big a sacrifice we are actually making. | |
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The pace forces us to spend time with our law students, inside and outside of the classroom. Because of the large workload, even when we're not in class, we're often thinking about law school. Because most of our experiences involve law school, the people we relate best to are other law students. We hang out more and more with law students, and then really only relate to other law students. We forget there are other lifestyles out there, and that it doesn't have to be this crazy. | >
> | Forced Bonding
The pace forces us to spend time with our law students, inside and outside of the classroom. Because of the large workload, even when we're not in class, we're often thinking about law school. Because most of our experiences involve law school, the people we relate best to are other law students. We hang out more and more with law students, and then really only relate to other law students. We forget there are other lifestyles out there, and that it doesn't have to be this crazy. | | | | |
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The Curve
We Can't All Be Winners
The curve is our first indication that we aren't in college anymore, Toto. We won't just be measured on our own merits, but also on the merits of others. (We got our first taste of this with the application process. The LSAT is designed to be a bell curve. And it's a curve that can't be beaten; no one will care if I get a 175 if by some freak accident everyone else that year gets a 176). | | | | |
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> | The Sociology of the Curve
In subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways the curve affects our interactions with others. In the back of our minds, helping others seems more risky, since if Classmate X gets an A, my odds of getting an A decrease. The same will be true when we get to a law firm, since only a fraction of people can make partner. | | | | |
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> | The Culture of Spending
Cycle of Spending | | | We go through the drudgery of every week looking forward to the debauchery of the weekend. We put up with boredom and tedium, and then reward ourselves by spending lots of money and getting drunk (thus forcefully forgetting how much our lives suck). | |
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> | The Law School Helps | | | Bar Review encourages this cycle absolutely | |
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> | Working for the Weekend | | | This practice is just short-term delayed gratification. And is it even that gratifying? It must be; everyone else is doing it. Besides, it's better than thinking about Con Law. This gets us ready for our post-CLS life, where we will do boring, intensive work every week, and then spend lots of money and get drunk every weekend to avoid thinking about it. | |
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> | Firm Receptions | | | Firm receptions also prepare us for this cycle. They're boring, but we go to them anyway because:
- There's free stuff (food, booze, toys)
- Everyone else is doing it | |
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I'm trying to decide between two potential paper topics, and if anyone has an opinion, it would be much appreciated.
Paper Topic 1
Transcendental Nonsense and Creeds -- While I was reading last week's assignment, it occurred to me that many (all?) of the times the law breaks down into the most egregious transcendental nonsense correlates with those times when the law as an organization needs a creed of its own. I was thinking about writing a paper that analyzed a few of those moments, and ended with a brief discussion of how the law uses transcendental nonsense to create a creed that means nothing, and thus allows most everyone to identify with it. A potential variation on that form would be a paper that discusses how law and crime reinforce each other (in the same way the reading talked about prostitution).
Paper Topic 2
From the Class Room to the Firm -- The second topic I had in mind was a more straight-up sociological analysis of the way the law school structure socializes students to firm life. Potential subsections I was thinking about include the curve, the socratic method, and the culture of spending.
- I thought about writing on a similar topic. One consideration is how the schedule and pace of law school force students to sacrifice relatioships with friends and family, acclimating them to continued sacrifices while working for firms. -- AdamCarlis 11 February 2008
- This is an excellent point. If I do this topic, do you mind if I incorporate this idea into my paper? Eben, is that ethical (I would cite Adam if I did so)?
- No one has ever had a completely original idea. Anyone is free to appropriate anything I say (not that it is always a good idea). -- AdamCarlis 11 February 2008
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> | *Disclaimer: For the sake of simplicity, I have broken the processes used to socialize law students into discrete categories (practical results and ideals). I do, however, realize that in practice these processes often have overlapping effects: the curve, for instance, changes both students’ behavior and their beliefs. | | |
You are entitled to restrict access to your paper if you want to. But we all derive immense benefit from reading one another's work, and I hope you won't feel the need unless the subject matter is personal and its disclosure would be harmful or undesirable. |
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Arnold quote about how people become acculturated into an organization. Brief discussion on how this is not about how law school acculturates us to the Law, but instead how it acculturates us to Law Firm Culture. | | | | |
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The fact that law schools are ranked, and that decisions about which law school to attend are in large part based on those rankings, introduce us to a way of thinking will become more and more dominant in both law school and law firms. When others assign a number to everything, you don't have to do the thinking - someone else has already done it for you. | | | | |
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Numbers will also come to reflect how we think of ourselves. First it is identification with the ranking of the school we attend. Then it is our GPA. Finally, it is how much money we make. | | | | |
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Law school begins the make us think of us as numbers. The two most important things to a law school is our GPA and our LSAT -- all the rest is fluff. Firms reinforce our identification with numbers. All those factors that used to be important (hobbies, interests, etc) don't matter to firms. They don't want to know whether we play the oboe; they want to know what our GPA is. | | | | |
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> | Decision in Numbers
Law firms, like law schools, are ranked. Again, we can make our decision based on someone else's arbitrary numerical assignment. The fact that we make a life decision (where to work) based on numbers reinforces their value in our own lives: they aren't arbitrary, they are meaningful. And if they are meaningful when describing a firm, they must be meaningful when describing me, too. | | | | |
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> | We Can't All Be Winners
The curve is our first indication that we aren't in college anymore, Toto. We won't just be measured on our own merits, but also on the merits of others. (We got our first taste of this with the application process. The LSAT is designed to be a bell curve. And it's a curve that can't be beaten; no one will care if I get a 175 if by some freak accident everyone else that year gets a 176).
The Sociology of the Curve
In subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways the curve affects our interactions with others. In the back of our minds, helping others seems more risky, since if Classmate X gets an A, my odds of getting an A decrease. The same will be true when we get to a law firm, since only a fraction of people can make partner.
Side Thoughts
Why would law firms want to discourage collaboration in this way? Is any of this how firms "want" us to behave? Or is it just a self-perpetuating cycle, that doesn't help/hurt the firm?
Sacrificing Relationships
Unnecessary Pace
Law school doesn't need to be so time-consuming. Do we really need to read that many cases on personal jurisdiction? But having so little free time in law school gets us used to having little free time when we go to firms. By that time, sacrificing personal relationships for The Law will be standard.
I'll Do It Tomorrow
The sacrifice is always framed as a temporary one: it'll just be like this until IL is over; then, it'll just be like this until law school is over; then, it will just be like this until I make partner. By framing it thus we lose sight of how big a sacrifice we are actually making.
Forced Bonding
The pace forces us to spend time with our law students, inside and outside of the classroom. Because of the large workload, even when we're not in class, we're often thinking about law school. Because most of our experiences involve law school, the people we relate best to are other law students. We hang out more and more with law students, and then really only relate to other law students. We forget there are other lifestyles out there, and that it doesn't have to be this crazy.
Culture of Spending
Cycle of Spending
We go through the drudgery of every week looking forward to the debauchery of the weekend. We put up with boredom and tedium, and then reward ourselves by spending lots of money and getting drunk (thus forcefully forgetting how much our lives suck).
The Law School Helps
Bar Review encourages this cycle absolutely
Working for the Weekend
This practice is just short-term delayed gratification. And is it even that gratifying? It must be; everyone else is doing it. Besides, it's better than thinking about Con Law. This gets us ready for our post-CLS life, where we will do boring, intensive work every week, and then spend lots of money and get drunk every weekend to avoid thinking about it.
Firm Receptions
Firm receptions also prepare us for this cycle. They're boring, but we go to them anyway because:
- There's free stuff (food, booze, toys)
- Everyone else is doing it | | | | |
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