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ClassNotes17Jan08 12 - 18 Jan 2008 - Main.MichaelBrown
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1-17-08 - Thursday | | http://video.aol.com/video-detail/simpsons-halloween-shining-episode/1093522388
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Actually what I found most interesting about the vegging out discussion was the preface. I feel somewhat totally ignorrant but I have always thought of memory as something more innate or biological. As a kid, I often remarked on how unfair k-12 education was because it was all about memory. I was wondering if anyone who did psych undergrad took any classes on it. I have heard of speed reading classes, but is it just common knowledge that memory is something we all can master? Does everyone agree with the proposition? In tutoring many kids over time and just growing up it would seem that this has not been my experience. In addition, I have never tried to work at my memory. So after a brief wikipedia check I figured I would just ask the class for your thoughts.
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ClassNotes17Jan08 11 - 18 Jan 2008 - Main.TedKreit
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1-17-08 - Thursday | | I can't speak for Eben but to me engaging with film (or with TV, though I've not watched much in a while) wouldn't seem to be a problem as much as sitting back completely mindlessly and letting TV flow over one. I think it would be hard for most of us to get to that point, but maybe it's a little harmful even when engaging with some programming. Does it harm memory to "take up space" with remembering the characters and storylines from a TV drama, and does it harm it any more than remembering the equivalents from [example of the day] Shakespeare's works? Is either or both a "waste?"
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The TV discussion reminded me of this great Simpsons line:
Lisa: It's not out fault our generation has short attention spans, Dad. We watch an appalling amount of TV.
Homer: Don't you ever, EVER talk that way about television.
Here's a video of another funny Simpsons moment that is somewhat on-point:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/simpsons-halloween-shining-episode/1093522388
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ClassNotes17Jan08 10 - 18 Jan 2008 - Main.DanielHarris
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1-17-08 - Thursday | | Andrew, I am not sure about the credit issue. To add a line break you can try using <BR> if you find you cannot just hit enter.
Kate, unless you create a new account and use another IP for it (or use another site to host the board), what you post could likely still be tied back to you. In a class of opinionated law students, I'm willing to bet that we can manage plenty of engagement and even some controversy with our names showing. That said, it is hardly my decision to make.
-- DanBryan - 18 Jan 2008 | |
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I can't speak for Eben but to me engaging with film (or with TV, though I've not watched much in a while) wouldn't seem to be a problem as much as sitting back completely mindlessly and letting TV flow over one. I think it would be hard for most of us to get to that point, but maybe it's a little harmful even when engaging with some programming. Does it harm memory to "take up space" with remembering the characters and storylines from a TV drama, and does it harm it any more than remembering the equivalents from [example of the day] Shakespeare's works? Is either or both a "waste?"
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ClassNotes17Jan08 9 - 18 Jan 2008 - Main.DanBryan
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1-17-08 - Thursday | | With regards to vegging out, I was wondering what Eben thought about film studies/active viewing. As a film studies major in college, I spent most of my time trying to "actively" watch films in order to unpack how they were constructed and how they were designed to affect the viewer. Is the memory-harming "vegging out" we discussed a necessary effect of the medium, or is it possible to engage with television and film in such a way as to make it an intellectually stimulating experience?
-- DanielButrymowicz - 18 Jan 2008 | |
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Andrew, I am not sure about the credit issue. To add a line break you can try using <BR> if you find you cannot just hit enter.
Kate, unless you create a new account and use another IP for it (or use another site to host the board), what you post could likely still be tied back to you. In a class of opinionated law students, I'm willing to bet that we can manage plenty of engagement and even some controversy with our names showing. That said, it is hardly my decision to make.
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ClassNotes17Jan08 8 - 18 Jan 2008 - Main.DanielButrymowicz
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1-17-08 - Thursday | | -- KateVershov - 18 Jan 2008 | |
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With regards to vegging out, I was wondering what Eben thought about film studies/active viewing. As a film studies major in college, I spent most of my time trying to "actively" watch films in order to unpack how they were constructed and how they were designed to affect the viewer. Is the memory-harming "vegging out" we discussed a necessary effect of the medium, or is it possible to engage with television and film in such a way as to make it an intellectually stimulating experience?
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