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DoNotesMatter 2 - 23 Apr 2010 - Main.NathanStopper
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I put some thought in on this, and I figured I'd share it. That's what the wiki is for, right? | | | What Eben just said concerning lawyers without a client seems pretty relevant to this (note writing) as well. More or less, that was my whole point. He's a bit better with words than I am.
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I think writing a note might be one of the only useful reasons to actually be on a journal. As I understand it, writing a note gives you some opportunity to create a substantial relationship with a faulty member, which is something I'd really like to have. I also think it gives you a chance to really put some thought into a piece of legal writing - sort of like taking our Moglen papers to the next level (although Eben would say it's easier to write the 10,000 word paper than the 1,000 word version).
While I think writing a note might be worthwhile, I've been wondering whether it's worth it to join a journal. I'm not really sure how spending 5-20 hours/week cite checking is going to help me become a better lawyer, and I'd rather use that time learning skills that will help me in the future. There are obviously some career benefits if you're on Law Review, but how much is it going to help you to cite check and edit papers for a journal that you aren't really interested in? It seems to me that journals are one those classic law school things that you do because it's assumed that you will do them. Maybe the thing to do is take a seminar on a subject that is really appealing and write a paper for the seminar that you try to get published in a journal?
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DoNotesMatter 1 - 22 Apr 2010 - Main.MichaelHilton
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I put some thought in on this, and I figured I'd share it. That's what the wiki is for, right?
Aside from the individual benefits of writing a note, which I consider pretty much enough reason to do it in the first place, I think there are some benefits to the profession as a whole. One such benefit would be a more capable lawyer in the world (yes! individual benefits can also have larger repercussions). I feel like note writing on minor points of law is in a sense similar to a judge writing a dissenting opinion, only it's not been asked for, and the only weight it carries is the soundness of the logic used. Still, it's important because it's a chance to lay down the framework on which a case can be built which may overturn the questionable point of law, especially if the issue is one not currently being litigated or if there's a lack of standing, which obstructs bringing suit. This will facilitate the litigation in the event suit concerning the law is brought. Additionally, it's important to put out a well reasoned argument because lawyers who actually end up litigating these matters may not have the same ideas the note writer does, and their argument may suffer for it. An additional pair of eyes on a subject never hurt anyone.
I dunno. What do you folks think? Note writing worthwhile, or a waste of time, caffeine, ink and paper?
-- MichaelHilton - 22 Apr 2010
What Eben just said concerning lawyers without a client seems pretty relevant to this (note writing) as well. More or less, that was my whole point. He's a bit better with words than I am.
-- MichaelHilton - 22 Apr 2010
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