There is no reason Career Services can't keep track of rescinded offers and furloughs. They force us to give 1L summer job reports before we do EIP, they could force students to give 3L job status reports if that information were important to them. And I agree that the school should provide information regarding GPAs. They obviously already calculate them, why not make that information available? To give no more guidance than scholar or non-scholar leaves over 2/3 of the class with very little frame of reference.

A student I was walking home with was annoyed that the issue of rescinded offers and furloughs was brought up. Talk about protecting the integrity of the role.

-- DanKarmel - 24 Apr 2010

I think Krystal's comment is telling: "I understand that OCS is under pressure, but...I just think that the legal field is changing and CLS needs to be able to keep up with that change." That I completely agree with-- CLS needs to do something, my point is that we should not be expecting that to come from OCS. They have a specific role within a bigger picture, and are really just low-hanging fruit for our understandable frustration. The problem is with the people giving the orders ignoring the problems, not the people taking them who are forced to engage in futile acts. OCS is just trying to get us jobs which most of us came here for but which are dwindling, and as I detailed above there are various reasons outside their control for doing so. Maybe they crossed the line with the BS, maybe they didn't, but does it really make that much a difference?

-- RorySkaggs - 23 Apr 2010

And I also agree with Krystal that we will all be fine- I've met plenty of smart people here who I think can do great things, and I think the sooner we stop worrying about whatever anyone is selling and focus on ourselves and the work we can do to get where we want to go, the better.

-- RorySkaggs - 23 Apr 2010

@Rory: Like Nona, I'm also not afraid and don't "desperately" want anything. I think we will all be fine to be honest. I understand that OCS is under pressure, but again, a bit of honesty and maybe even a tiny bit of promotion of Eben's philosophy -- be creative, make your own decisions-- would be nice. As stated, I was in the meeting because it was mandatory for me to keep my options open. (p.s. - I know you weren't in the meeting so it's harder for you to understand the amount of nonsense they fed us. Yep. I called you out. LOL. ) I just think that the legal field is changing and CLS needs to be able to keep up with that change and also help students in thinking about different ways to make their mark. Idk. Just my two cents.

-- KrystalCommons - 23 Apr 2010

sorry...make their mark and/or get a job.

-- KrystalCommons - 23 Apr 2010

Actually, to defend OCS: layoffs often don't reflect economic performance. Some firms laid off hundreds of employees but posted record PPPs.

-- MatthewZorn - 23 Apr 2010

I agree with Jon--one of the three points should be calculating GPAs. Maybe grades shouldn't matter, but as long as they do, they should be transparent.

-- MatthewZorn - 23 Apr 2010

Two pieces of information would be helpful and significantly reduce the amount of research I would have to do: (1) the grades and profile of every student who got a callback and offer at a particular firm (2) a list of firms and the number of CLS students (class of 2010) they deferred.

-- JonathanWaisnor - 23 Apr 2010