Ilana — as someone who also struggles with drawing firm boundaries with family and friends as to what I take on (and thus compromising my own mental wellbeing or ability to enjoy my own free time), I resonate so much with what you have written and appreciate the list of potential solutions that you have drawn up, as I think that these can be implemented generally in life outside of public interest or the legal industry itself. I was curious about what thoughts you have had on helping employees separate work and their personal lives beyond encouragement. As someone who had a work phone for two years, I often found myself constantly checking on my work phone out of paranoia that an emergency would arise or that I may have missed an email from an attorney. The law firm that I had worked at had tried to resolve this issue by telling us that the expectation was to be somewhat online and on your phone until 11 p.m., after which you could relax. I would love to read what your proposed plan for your practice might be and compare notes from my previous experiences. I agree wholeheartedly with points 4 and 5 on PTO and mental health, as those are great ways to encourage people to actively separate themselves from their work and begin processing (and learning how to process) any vicarious trauma that may have been repressed. - Gillian