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| | | This focus on external results (employability, law school ranking) rather than the internal learning process of students represents a fundamental flaw. Grades are simply an assessment of our learning (although the subjectivity and mysteriousness of the current process conveys a sense of magic). When the focus becomes the grades and our employability, the by-product of our learning, then we miss the point. We attend Columbia Law School partly because it is prestigious, but that prestige is not purely a reflection of the ease of employment. The prestige represents teaching by renowned scholars, collaboration with talented students, and the opportunity to learn in a variety of legal areas. Although we retain great faculty and academic opportunities, it appears as though we have lost sight of the learning process as our foundation. I identify two factors that may have led to this fundamental flaw.
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activities. Each moot court team is firm-sponsored to pay for travel
expenses and student organizations retain sponsorships to pay for
events, despite the Student Activity Fee. Many law firms are also
large donors, apparent by the wall of plaques in the Jerome Greene
lobby. This dependency on money from law firms creates an environment
in which we must cater to their desires in order to pay our
bills. When it comes to a change in the grading system, it may be true
that this change would require employers to work harder to distinguish
students. However, if our economic interests were not tied to the
interests of employers, then we could easily announce that employers
very well should work harder to differentiate our students according
to factors other than simply grades.
- You mean, if the teachers had to work harder. Employers could very well use more carefully-collected and carefully-expressed judgments about law students from teachers who really took the time and trouble to know who they are and how they are developing as lawyers through law school. If employers actually wanted to sponsor the production of information relevant to placement, they could do so. And teachers could collectively decide—because faculty are supposed to govern the institution collectively, in partnership, not by delegating to David and Nate an entitlement to decide—whether it would be in the interest of their students to accept that money and produce that differentiation for employers. Meantime, many teachers are presently failing in their responsibility to provide useful evaluation of learning to their students. Your point is that if they had to work harder for you that should neither determine nor come at the expense of how they work to help prospective employers.
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sponsorship, we allow the learning process of our students to be
dependent upon the desires of future employers. | | | Competition Among Law Schools
As a Top Law School we are constantly trying to ensure that our prestige is not diminished. The Dean suggested that we are investigating the grading system as a result of the recent changes at Yale, Harvard, and Stanford. While a discussion of our grading system is incredibly important, the impetus should not be a result of changes at other competitive schools. When the focus is on competition rather than the needs of our students, we create a fundamental flaw where we improve the learning process of our students when it enhances our quantitative results in the legal community. | | | A Novel Approach
The main concern about a pass/fail system is that students may not place sufficient effort into their studies. I recommend a novel approach where students receive a pass/fail grade but where they may also release their exams to employers. Student motivation would continue because they would recognize that their exam is a demonstration of their writing ability and their knowledge. There would be no grade label to create arbitrary distinctions. We could also abandon the rushed three-hour exam in order to allow more composed, thoughtful writing. I do not recommend this approach absolutely, but I wish to demonstrate that when we focus on the learning process of our students, we can create novel solutions to law school problems. | |
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- I think this is an excellent start. It's clear, crisp, and effective. I think you want to make it even tighter, so that there is not a word out of place. I think you want a punchier title. I think you should leave the last graf behind. You aren't making a recommendation; your position is that owing to fundamentally misplaced social priorities, this conversation was over before it began. The onus is on the other side of the dialog to respond by showing an openness to conversation and reflection on the fundamental commitments as well as the details. Is the institution prepared to acknowledge that the priority must lie where you, who pay the tuitions, need it to lie?
- Once you have perfected the essay, you should make sure your classmates and other law students have a chance to read it. You can push the link to everyone pretty easily. Ask people what they want. See how many conversations you can start. Things will happen. New experiences, as someone else I can't cite says, will accrue. Something may change.
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LaurenRosenbergFirstPaper 1 - 27 Feb 2009 - Main.LaurenRosenberg
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Law School: Towards a Focus on the Learning Process
-- By LaurenRosenberg - 27 Feb 2009
Introduction
This Wednesday I attended a meeting with Dean Schizer to “discuss” grading policies and procedures. I assumed that this was going to leave an awful taste in my mouth, since a leader does not “discuss” a situation with the masses until a decision has been made. I attended anyway and listened to Dean Schizer and Professor Persily (apparently greatly involved in assessing our grading policy). Their basic points were: 1) employers prefer the current system because it allows them to differentiate us from our classmates; 2) the pass/fail policy at Harvard, Yale, and Stanford will benefit us since employers are more likely to hire us when they can differentiate us. I was awestruck. When one approaches the issue focused on what is easiest for employers, then the issue had already been decided before it was raised.
Fundamental Flaw
This focus on external results (employability, law school ranking) rather than the internal learning process of students represents a fundamental flaw. Grades are simply an assessment of our learning (although the subjectivity and mysteriousness of the current process conveys a sense of magic). When the focus becomes the grades and our employability, the by-product of our learning, then we miss the point. We attend Columbia Law School partly because it is prestigious, but that prestige is not purely a reflection of the ease of employment. The prestige represents teaching by renowned scholars, collaboration with talented students, and the opportunity to learn in a variety of legal areas. Although we retain great faculty and academic opportunities, it appears as though we have lost sight of the learning process as our foundation. I identify two factors that may have led to this fundamental flaw.
Law Firm Sponsorship
Law firms currently sponsor a wide range of law school activities. Each moot court team is firm-sponsored to pay for travel expenses and student organizations retain sponsorships to pay for events, despite the Student Activity Fee. Many law firms are also large donors, apparent by the wall of plaques in the Jerome Greene lobby. This dependency on money from law firms creates an environment in which we must cater to their desires in order to pay our bills. When it comes to a change in the grading system, it may be true that this change would require employers to work harder to distinguish students. However, if our economic interests were not tied to the interests of employers, then we could easily announce that employers very well should work harder to differentiate our students according to factors other than simply grades. By allowing law firm sponsorship, we allow the learning process of our students to be dependent upon the desires of future employers.
Competition Among Law Schools
As a Top Law School we are constantly trying to ensure that our prestige is not diminished. The Dean suggested that we are investigating the grading system as a result of the recent changes at Yale, Harvard, and Stanford. While a discussion of our grading system is incredibly important, the impetus should not be a result of changes at other competitive schools. When the focus is on competition rather than the needs of our students, we create a fundamental flaw where we improve the learning process of our students when it enhances our quantitative results in the legal community.
Towards A Proper Inquiry
If we place the importance of learning at the focus of our inquiry, then the types of questions that are raised become very different than those at the discussion with Dean Schizer. We should ask what type of grading system would enable students to work together more productively. Does the current system stifle unique thought for fear that it will not be among the generally accepted response? Would a system of pass/fail lessen incentives to read and study? Does the subjectivity of the current grading system create arbitrary distinctions among students?
The Current Grading System
In discussing these questions with some of my classmates, there seems to be a general agreement that the current grading system creates a sense of fear, since your future employment is dependent on one final exam. In my experience, this type of fear inhibits productive learning. Students generally learn only what will likely appear in examinations; we do not delve into intricacies of a theory because it will be unimportant in a short exam. The grading curve also creates competitiveness because learning is now a zero-sum game.
The Pass/Fail System
There is also a general concern that a pass/fail system will lessen the incentive for students to work hard. If the system provides only two options, pass or fail, then it may not require a large amount of effort to pass. Students may not complete their reading and may surf the Internet in class more often. Alternatively, if the grading system includes a high pass, students may devote all their energy to one or two classes (to try to receive a high pass in those classes) and devote very little effort to the other classes. Opinions differ as to the probability of these effects. Nonetheless, everyone agrees that future discussion is necessary as well as observation of the results at Harvard, Yale, and Stanford.
A Novel Approach
The main concern about a pass/fail system is that students may not place sufficient effort into their studies. I recommend a novel approach where students receive a pass/fail grade but where they may also release their exams to employers. Student motivation would continue because they would recognize that their exam is a demonstration of their writing ability and their knowledge. There would be no grade label to create arbitrary distinctions. We could also abandon the rushed three-hour exam in order to allow more composed, thoughtful writing. I do not recommend this approach absolutely, but I wish to demonstrate that when we focus on the learning process of our students, we can create novel solutions to law school problems.
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