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Interesting thoughts. I read Barthes as focusing on a sort of moment of transformation between the "before and after." The author operates on reality and "dies" in the sense that the rendering of symbol creates meaning unrelated to its origin.
With laws, however, it seems there are actually two moments of transformation. The first is what Barthes discusses - the moment at which symbols are rendered - where the lawmaker physically writes the statute or amends it. But isn't there also a second moment - when the statute actually becomes law (in America, when the executive signs it)? To me this second moment is critical, because, unlike other forms, when writing becomes law, it begins to coercively alter people's behavior. So while I'm okay with judges deriving their own subjective meaning from reading "Moby Dick," (because it does not affect me) I think the critical aspect of coercion means that judges should respect the interpretations of others when reading laws (and legislative intent might be one such element).
-- ShayBanerjee - 13 Mar 2015
I like your application of reader-response theory (or something like it) to judging and statutory interpretation, but I'm not sure I agree with some of your claims. First, do judges really let authorship die when they interpret opinions? Don't they often (sometimes overtly) consider the historical context and intentions of the author? Otherwise, if there is no platonic correctness, what is a judge's "understanding" of an opinion besides what she thinks the law should be? Second, doesn't your argument that we can't rely on legislators to express their unconscious intent lead to the (ironic) conclusion that we shouldn't trust them to distinguish their "holding" (the text of the statute) from their "dicta" (legislative history) either? If majority opinions of judges are subject to the same issues of individual intents, unconscious intents, etc., would you prefer that judges just give us an order or outcome without the discursive rationalizations (distinctions between carrots and potatoes) that follow?
-- HenryRoss - 28 Mar 2015
Building on Shay and Henry, how do you contend with the differences between common law and statutes regarding (for starters) their historical geneses and present modes of enactment?
-- MattBurke - 29 Mar 2015
Sorry if I'm antagonistic (not my intention), but I had another thought on this essay: how would you respond to the criticism that this interpretation of laws is undemocratic? Legislative intent strikes me as a powerful check on judges to ensure that judicial interpretation is in line with the will of the people. What if Planned Parenthood spent millions of volunteer hours pushing a bill through Congress intending to protect some aspect of woman's privacy, and that statute went to the Supreme Court? Are you sure you're okay with five conservative lawyers telling them their interpretation does not matter? I'm not sure I am.
I suppose in the end it all goes back to that ancient debate between Plato and Aristotle. Who do you trust more: philosopher-kings or politicians?
-- ShayBanerjee - 29 Mar 2015
Building off what others have said, the one point I'm stuck on the fact that, despite what Judge Day would say, there really is no neutrality when a judge interprets case law. Just as a judge looking at statutory text might go to legislative history, a judge trying to interpret the applicability of case law to a given set of facts will inquire into the normative policy motivations of the cases and then figure out what matches her own motivations. A more practical note, how do you see this theory playing out in constitutional interpretation? This has the feeling of more of a Scala-like approach to statutory interpretation regime. If so, is there an alternative way to find the constitutional support for many of the rights we as a society consider fundamental today even though they do not appear in the text?
-- NicoGurian - 03 Apr 2015
"If so, is there an alternative way to find the constitutional support for many of the rights we as a society consider fundamental today even though they do not appear in the text?"
I think a judge can justify many of the rights we have without resorting to legislative intent -- the framers of the 14th amendment likely didn't intend that the equal protection clause would preclude school segregation (granted, that's not statutory -- but my point is that I think you can reconcile our modern conceptions of rights with the idea that we should cease searching for and considering author's intent, even if those rights aren't explicit in the text).
Having said that, I would agree with Shay that there's something undemocratic about having 5 lawyers usurp the legislature's (likely) "intentions" and the executive's administration of a law. Otherwise, you get 5 lawyers denying millions health coverage due to a poorly worded statute. I guess on the flipside, one can still uphold the ACA as it has been administered without resorting to legislative intent/context -- if you're good enough, I'd say any logical argument can be utilized to justify any political disposition. As such, it's all just word play, and legislative intent is yet another tool in the tool box to justify a political leaning either way. But it's not necessarily an indispensable tool.
In short, I don't really think it will make a difference either way.
-- AlexWeiss - 06 Apr 2015
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