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< | What happens when we believe in things that don't accurately reflect reality? | >
> | What does it mean to believe in things that don't accurately reflect reality? | | | | |
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< | Isn't that what always happens? | >
> | At first glance, and at repeated glance, for that matter, it seems like a question that is too big, and too vague to even begin to ask. But it feels like something worth asking. | | | | |
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< | At first glance, and at repeated glance, for that matter, it seems like a question that is too big, and too vague to even begin to ask. But it feels like something worth asking. If a jury believes something that doesn't reflect reality, for instance, it seems like something other than "justice" is happening (whatever we mean by that term).
Is this about "believe"
in the sense of "I believe it's Tuesday," or in the sense of "I
believe there is one God," or "I believe that Jesus died to save my
soul"? Juries may be mistaken in the facts they find, but is that a
problem of belief?
In order to explore a possible answer to the question, we'd better start by clarifying what is even being asked. What do I mean by "belief?" The knee-jerk reaction of a definition that comes to my mind is something like "the state of being characterized by my thinking that something is correct (that is, accurate to reality, as opposed to morally praiseworthy)."
Why should you be using a relexive, unstudied definition? Isn't the
reader entitled to your analytical effort? If your definition of "a
belief" is, a conclusion drawn about facts on the basis of evidence,
then your opening question is equivalent to, "what happens when we
get facts wrong?"
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> | In order to explore a possible answer to the question, we'd better start by clarifying what is even being asked. What do I mean by "belief?" The knee-jerk reaction of a definition that comes to my mind is something like "the state of being characterized by my thinking that something is correct (that is, accurate to reality, as opposed to morally praiseworthy)." In other words, believing would be what I am doing when I hold to a conclusory interpretation of a set of facts. But does this capture the meaning of "belief?" | | |
Thinking It Through | |
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< | On second thought, that might have some problems. There are plenty of things that I think are correct, that are actually demonstrably correct, whether I think they are or not. Certain principles of mathematics, for instance, are correct, independent of my opinion regarding them. It seems irrelevant to say that I "believe" that 2 and 2 make 4. It is something that I actually know is correct, by the very definition of the terms involved.
But if someone says 2+2=11 he is also correct, if he is using a
base-3 number system. To me it is second nature to say that 2+9=B
and BA+6=C0, because I have spent many, many hours in my life doing
hexadecimal arithmetic. If you say 2+2=11 to me, should I disbelieve
you, or believe that you are counting in base-3, or something else? | >
> | On second thought, this definintion might have some problems. There are plenty of things that I think are correct, that are actually demonstrably correct, whether I think they are or not. Certain principles of mathematics, for instance, are correct, independent of my opinion regarding them. It seems irrelevant to say that I "believe" that 2 and 2 make 4. It is something that I actually know is correct, because, as long as it is understood that we are dealing in agreed-upon, abstract symbols (in this case, base-10 numerals), then we are working within a truly verifiable system. | | | | |
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I don't use the concept of "belief" to describe the state of my mind regarding certainties, since my knowledge takes me beyond mere belief. | >
> | I don't use the concept of "belief" to describe the state of my mind regarding known certainties, since my knowledge takes me beyond mere belief. | | | One important component of "belief," therefore, seems to be uncertainty. If I'm already certain that something is correct, then where does "belief" come in? What point is there in discussing my opinion of something's correctness, when it is actually demonstrably accurate? | | | This gets us to the idea that, in the world we experience, nothing is Absolute, and no proposition about our daily experience is as water-tight as we tend to think. Still, although I have no logical certainty that the sun will come up tomorrow, I don't have a lot of doubt about it. Plenty of things in our world are predictable enough that we can rely on their being "real," or, at least real enough for our purposes. For us, then, the uncertainty that "believing" entails seems to be more than just the remote spectre of falsifiability. Perhaps it involves an implicit acknowledgement that the object of our belief is actually worth doubting? | |
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> | Second Attempt At a Definition | | | Maybe a better definition for "belief" is this: "a state of being characterized by an assumption that something is accurate, in the absence of enough evidence to think of it as reasonably certain." | |
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< | Most of the people I
know who "believe" in God think that whatever God they believe in is
more than reasonably certain to exist, and that other Gods are more
than reasonably certain not to exist. Those who aren't reasonably
certain don't believe at all.
| | | It would be state of a maintaining a supposition about some proposition's truth, without enough evidence to make for a rational conclusion. I'm not going to try to set up a universal measure for how much evidence is enough to make a given conclusion rational. If it's crossing the barrier of "more likely than not" in some contexts, it's some other measure in other circumstances. | |
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< | Under this definition, belief without self-reflection means operating in a fundamentally irrational manner. That is, acting in a way that is not supported by reason. If I have practice enough self-reflection to acknowledge my present "belief" in something (under this definition), I also discover a cognizance that the object of my belief probably does not merit believing. For me, this tends to result in the non-belief of that proposition.
I don't know what this
paragraph means.
Even in the absence of believing, I could, of course, still entertain the possibility that the proposition could be true. I would just not be putting any stock in its veracity. If at some point, that proposition is shown to be either correct or otherwise, I could readjust my thinking.
"Belief" now appears to mean "reliance upon factual propositions not
established beyond practical doubt." If I take an umbrella with me
in the morning, foreseeing the likelihood of rain, then I "believe
it's going to rain today." If I leave the umbrella home, I don't
"believe"?
On the other hand, if I continue engaging in "belief," and a proposition turns out to be incorrect, I have opened myself up to Cognitive Dissonance, and will remain there until I somehow wake up from it or until I die, whichever comes first.
What? I don't
understand this at all.
Or, if I engage in "belief" and a proposition turns out to be correct, then it essentially amounts to a lucky guess.
I don't understand.
Does this mean that all predictions are either lucky guesses or
abject failures?
Neither of these outcomes result in increased ability to listen to and comprehend the world around me. In fact, both of them probably work to hinder my understanding. That seems like the beginning of an answer to my first question.
I don't understand all this. Science, which is a rationalized form
of inquiry into what can be known about the world, frames hypotheses
and tests them against evidence interpreted from the results of
experiments or observations. Over time, as evidence accumulates that
fails to falsify hypotheses, they become more certain. At some
point, though still subject to falsification, they are more useful as
bases for further hypotheses organizing experiment and observation
than as primary subjects of inquiry. How, on your analysis, does
science work to hinder its own understanding?
Wrap-up
So, why did I feel like the question was worth asking? Maybe it wasn't. In doing a bit of research on the traditional conversation on epistemology, it turns out that many of these considerations have already been discussed ad nauseum.
And there was nothing in
all that literature that was worth referring to or resonating with?
Nothing that was worth so much as a mention in relation to your own
"knee-jerk" speculations?
Still, until now I've never personally set down any coherent thoughts on the subject. The ideas have certainly been discussed more adeptly, and more fully elsewhere, but I think I've gotten something here newly understood for myself. That is, I have developed a hunch that choosing to believe something, in spite of a lack of reasonable grounds for thinking so, tends to result in a relatively diminished understanding of the things around me, whether the belief turns out to be correct or not. As for whether this hunch is correct or not, I think I will wait and see. | >
> | Under this definition, the moment I recognize that I assume something to be true--that I am maintaining a particular "belief"-- I must also recognize that I am operating in a fundamentally unreasonable manner. That is, I must acknowledge that the object of my belief is not reasonably certain--that it would more reasonably be considered uncertain. | | | | |
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> | Taking a step back for a moment, I want to consider what could be the potential results of continuing under this kind of belief. For a sort of reverse take on Pascal's Wager (similar ground having been explored by Richard Carrier, among others), let us say that I believe in a God for the rest of my life. Regardless of the effect of that belief on my eternal state of being (or lack thereof), how does this belief affect my ability to understand reality? If it turns out that a God exists, then I will have struck a lucky guess--and gained nothing in the way of increased ability to comprehend, as I will not have confirmed that belief until I have departed this world. If it turns out that no God exists, I will never discover that fact, and will go to my grave believing a falsehood. In either case, I will not have gained any understanding of any God's potential existence until after the time has passed in which it would have been most useful to have had it. I have tested no hypotheses, and refined no understanding. | | | | |
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< | The draft seems to me more preparatory than conclusive. I'm still
not sure what "believe" means. I don't know why, whatever believing
means, believing hinders understanding. I can understand, that is,
why some kinds of believing hinder understanding, but not whether
those kinds of believing are the ones you're talking about. | >
> | Quite opposite from the treatment of a hypothesis under the scientific method, this sort of a priori belief does not tend to an inquiry into its potential falsifiability through the gathering of evidence. As such, believing in this manner does not lead to an increased ability to listen to and comprehend the world around me. Simply maintaining this sort of belief means never finding out whether I was close to the truth in the first place. | | | | |
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< | Nor do I understand what this has to do with your opening question,
which I rephrase (possibly not correctly) as, "What happens when we
get facts wrong?" This seems to me an interesting question, with
several ponderable and potentially productive answers. Perhaps the
best way forward here is to return to that opening question and see
how your subsequent speculations have affected your answers. | >
> | And that seems like the beginning of an answer to my first question. | | | | |
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