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TheNAPSTERofLegalEducation 9 - 29 Apr 2008 - Main.AndrewGradman
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Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Pretend that the person you love wants out of law school the same thing you wanted out of law school. Multiple suggestions, multiple comment boxes. | | | I define "doing better" as "minimizing the effort to get good grades," hypothesizing that confidence in one's future grades impacts happiness, ability to learn, and all the other qualities of life. | |
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> | Your learning will comprise two functions: paraphrasing, into your own words, the primary sources (syllabus & lecture) and paraphrasing, into your own words, the secondary sources (G-drive outlines). | | | Lesson 1: Only bother with the primary sources when they differ from the secondary sources. If you find good G-Drive outlines, you'll rarely need to take class notes, because your teacher's lecture will differ little from past years' outlines; and you'll only need to read a few cases -- won't even need to buy a casebook -- if you find your syllabus fully represented there.
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> | Holmes said that "The law consists of that paraphrase of Precedent that a judge is most likely to utter." (To paraphrase.)
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- each day's lecture is a Precedent,
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- the exam is the paraphrase of lectures that the professor is most likely to generate.
- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
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- the [exam] is the paraphrase of [lectures] that the [professor] is most likely to generate.
- Students can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a student empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
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- Define a person empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor.
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- Define a student empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor.
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- Do this either by forming a study group (present classmates), or by using multiple G-drive outlines (past classmates).
Information equals ordered data. In principle, one single document could come into being that permits future students to empathize with and predict the professor without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. My outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure, combining the best of six G-Drive outlines, might permit a student to do this. I plan to contribute them to the G-Drive. | |
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< | But that's part of the problem: the addition of outlines makes it MORE difficult for future 1Ls to qualify all the data. If our goal is to provide the 1L with more information and less data, we should lower the costs to him of identifying information. We must identify for him a Maxwell's Demon with the incentive to cull the data from the information. | >
> | But that's part of the problem: the addition of outlines makes it MORE difficult for future 1Ls to qualify all the data. If our goal is to provide the 1L with more information and less data, we should lower the costs to him of identifying information. We must identify for him a Maxwell's Demon that has the incentive to weed the data from the information. | | | Suppose a CLS Wiki. Not a free-for-all Wiki, like this one. Instead, each teaching assistant gets her own real estate; everyone else gets various posting rights in the neighboring real estate. The question is, What rights, and which people, do we assign to the respective pieces of real estate? | | | Finally, I think focusing on grades at all is dangerous because of the curve. If a single person collaborates better with others, that person will likely learn more and get better grades. But, if the whole school begins to collaborate better together, then we'll all learn more, but none of us will get better grades. If collaboration is going to be the primary means, then the primary goal should be better learning and not better grades.
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1) RE my "assumptions" 1 & 2 & 3: ...
... the perception that there's insufficient data / insufficient methods / insufficient intelligence can all be paraphrased as saying "there's sufficient data, methods and intelligence ... but not enough TIME." Someone investing the time (as I have done) into the G-Drive outlines can create that magic document; the criticism, which is a good one, is that this technique is not TIME-EFFECTIVE; but that's just to say that we need to outsource the process.
2) The curve is bullshit. Teachers could just as well grade us in absolute terms and then tweak the boundaries to conform to the curve. It makes sense: we're a motley bunch ... given a fair test, a random cross-section of 90 1Ls is going to conform to a curve.
Given that fact: More CONFIDENCE in grades is what I'm after, not better grades -- my goal is to make the content of the class (the object of empathy) more objective, less fuzzy, so that a bad grade can be defined in terms of "not learning material" rather than (as it currently is) "insufficient empathy."
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TheNAPSTERofLegalEducation 8 - 25 Apr 2008 - Main.OluwafemiMorohunfola
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Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Pretend that the person you love wants out of law school the same thing you wanted out of law school. Multiple suggestions, multiple comment boxes. | | | -- AndrewGradman - 24 Apr 2008 | |
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Andrew, and i've already said most of this to you already, but your lessons rely on a few assumptions that cannot be proven: 1) that there's as much data online as their is from other sources, 2) that any of us are able to separate the good or useful data from the misleading or irrelevant data without consulting secondary sources, and 3) that the person implementing the method is smart enough to infer a lot from outlines which are essentially summaries of a greater wealth of knowledge. These assumptions are unverifiable and will sometimes be true, but almost certainly not always.
I believe that the benefits of collaboration can be better achieved if we all work together to put more information online, in wikis and such, instead of just working together to better understand what is already there.
Finally, I think focusing on grades at all is dangerous because of the curve. If a single person collaborates better with others, that person will likely learn more and get better grades. But, if the whole school begins to collaborate better together, then we'll all learn more, but none of us will get better grades. If collaboration is going to be the primary means, then the primary goal should be better learning and not better grades.
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TheNAPSTERofLegalEducation 7 - 25 Apr 2008 - Main.AndrewGradman
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< | Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Mina makes a good point: "do you mean "do better" only in terms of grades? quality/amount of knowledge gained? overall experience (including social life)? or all of the above?"
I was going to respond: "I wanted to discover how we could be altruistic to 1Ls, assuming that we can't know why they came here."
But this class reminds us that you can't help someone succeed at CLS until you (or she) knows why she came to CLS.
Okay, new rule: when you answer the question, state what you think that the person you love wants out of law school -- and for best effect, make that equal to the thing you wanted out of law school.
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> | Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Pretend that the person you love wants out of law school the same thing you wanted out of law school. Multiple suggestions, multiple comment boxes. | | | -- AndrewGradman - 24 Apr 2008 | | |
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< | I hypothesize that confidence in one's future grades impacts happiness as well as one's ability to learn, so I define "doing better" as "minimizing the effort to get good grades," with the understanding that this achievement improves the other qualities of life.
Divide the labor (e.g. study group) into two functions: paraphrasing the primary sources (syllabus & lecture) and paraphrasing the secondary sources (G-drive outlines). | >
> | I define "doing better" as "minimizing the effort to get good grades," hypothesizing that confidence in one's future grades impacts happiness, ability to learn, and all the other qualities of life. | | | | |
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< | Lesson 1: Only bother with the primary sources when they differ from the secondary sources. You'll rarely need to take class notes, because your teacher's lecture will differ little from the G-Drive outlines reflecting past years; and, before the first day of class, you can determine that you'll only need to read a few cases -- that you don't even need to buy a casebook -- if you compare your syllabus with your g-drive outlines. | >
> | Your learning will comprise two functions: paraphrasing, into your own words, the primary sources (syllabus & lecture) and the secondary sources (G-drive outlines). | | | | |
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> | Lesson 1: Only bother with the primary sources when they differ from the secondary sources. If you find good G-Drive outlines, you'll rarely need to take class notes, because your teacher's lecture will differ little from past years' outlines; and you'll only need to read a few cases -- won't even need to buy a casebook -- if you find your syllabus fully represented there.
| | | Holmes said that "The law consists of that paraphrase of Precedent that a judge is most likely to utter." (j/k.)
If
- the professor is a common-law Judge,
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then
- the exam is the paraphrase of lectures that the professor is most likely to generate.
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- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
Lesson 2: DO NOT attempt to empathize with the professor privately; empathy is a social construct. Define a person empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor. Either do this by forming a study group, or by using multiple G-drive outlines (past classmates).
In principle, a single document could come into being that permits future students to empathize with and predict the professor, without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. My outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure last semester might permit a student to do this. I plan to contribute my outline to the G-Drive collection; to outlines one through six, there will now be seven.
Information equals the destruction of bad data. The problem is, that the addition of newer, better outlines makes it MORE difficult for future 1Ls to distinguish bad from good data. We are just adding new data, not new information, until we identify a force that can identify and destroy the bad data. | >
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- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
Lesson 2: DO NOT attempt to empathize with the professor privately; empathy is a relative term, a social construct, a function of the curve.
- Define a person empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor.
- Do this either by forming a study group (present classmates), or by using multiple G-drive outlines (past classmates).
Information equals ordered data. In principle, one single document could come into being that permits future students to empathize with and predict the professor without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. My outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure, combining the best of six G-Drive outlines, might permit a student to do this. I plan to contribute them to the G-Drive. | | | | |
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> | But that's part of the problem: the addition of outlines makes it MORE difficult for future 1Ls to qualify all the data. If our goal is to provide the 1L with more information and less data, we should lower the costs to him of identifying information. We must identify for him a Maxwell's Demon with the incentive to cull the data from the information. | | | Suppose a CLS Wiki. Not a free-for-all Wiki, like this one. Instead, each teaching assistant gets her own real estate; everyone else gets various posting rights in the neighboring real estate. The question is, What rights, and which people, do we assign to the respective pieces of real estate? | |
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< | Lesson 3: Don't give up if an original assignment of rights & persons fails; tweak the model as it fails. This is an experiment. The Maxwell's Demon that you are creating is The Wiki itself; you owe it to the next generation of 1Ls to not give up. | >
> | Lesson 3: Don't give up; tweak the assignments of rights & persons as they fails. This is an experiment. The Maxwell's Demon that you are creating is The Wiki itself; you owe it to the next generation of 1Ls to not give up.
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TheNAPSTERofLegalEducation 6 - 24 Apr 2008 - Main.AndrewGradman
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Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Mina makes a good point: "do you mean "do better" only in terms of grades? quality/amount of knowledge gained? overall experience (including social life)? or all of the above?"
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- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
Lesson 2: DO NOT attempt to empathize with the professor privately; empathy is a social construct. Define a person empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor. Either do this by forming a study group, or by using multiple G-drive outlines (past classmates). | |
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< | In principle, a single document could come into being that permits a future student to get a high grade without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. Indeed, my outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure last semester would have permitted a student to do this, had my professors not, respectively, retired / been retired. I plan to contribute my outline to the G-Drive collection. To outlines one through six, there will now be seven. | >
> | In principle, a single document could come into being that permits future students to empathize with and predict the professor, without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. My outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure last semester might permit a student to do this. I plan to contribute my outline to the G-Drive collection; to outlines one through six, there will now be seven. | | | Information equals the destruction of bad data. The problem is, that the addition of newer, better outlines makes it MORE difficult for future 1Ls to distinguish bad from good data. We are just adding new data, not new information, until we identify a force that can identify and destroy the bad data. |
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TheNAPSTERofLegalEducation 5 - 24 Apr 2008 - Main.AndrewGradman
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Let's conduct a thought experiment. "If someone you loved were entering as a 1L in September of 2008, how would you help that person do better than you did?"
Mina makes a good point: "do you mean "do better" only in terms of grades? quality/amount of knowledge gained? overall experience (including social life)? or all of the above?"
| | | Lesson 1: Only bother with the primary sources when they differ from the secondary sources. You'll rarely need to take class notes, because your teacher's lecture will differ little from the G-Drive outlines reflecting past years; and, before the first day of class, you can determine that you'll only need to read a few cases -- that you don't even need to buy a casebook -- if you compare your syllabus with your g-drive outlines. | |
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< | Holmes said that "The law consists of that paraphrase of Precedent that a judge is most likely to adopt." (j/k.)
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> | Holmes said that "The law consists of that paraphrase of Precedent that a judge is most likely to utter." (j/k.)
| | | If
- the professor is a common-law Judge,
- each day's lecture is a Precedent,
- and the Law is the exam,
then
- the exam is the paraphrase of lectures that the professor is most likely to generate.
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- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to generate.
Lesson 2: DO NOT attempt to empathize with the professor alone. Use multiple G-drive outlines to generate a person empathizing with the professor statistically. | >
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- We can approximate the most probable exam as the one which a person empathizing with the professor is most likely to write.
Lesson 2: DO NOT attempt to empathize with the professor privately; empathy is a social construct. Define a person empathizing with the professor in terms of how your peers empathize with your professor. Either do this by forming a study group, or by using multiple G-drive outlines (past classmates). | | | In principle, a single document could come into being that permits a future student to get a high grade without buying a casebook or transcribing a word of lecture. Indeed, my outlines for Contracts and Civil Procedure last semester would have permitted a student to do this, had my professors not, respectively, retired / been retired. I plan to contribute my outline to the G-Drive collection. To outlines one through six, there will now be seven. |
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