Law in Contemporary Society

View   r3  >  r2  >  r1
WenweiLaiFirstPaper 3 - 01 Mar 2010 - Main.WenweiLai
Line: 1 to 1
 
META TOPICPARENT name="FirstPaper"

It is strongly recommended that you include your outline in the body of your essay by using the outline as section titles. The headings below are there to remind you how section and subsection titles are formatted.

Line: 10 to 10
 

I. The current cruel and unusual punishment jurisprudence of the Supreme Court: Roper

Changed:
<
<
The Eight Amendment provides: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment inflicted.” Is executing a juvenile under 18 cruel and unusual? The Supreme Court answered this question in the affirmative in Roper (2005), basing its decisions on some transcendental nonsense. Interestingly, the decision is criticized most often not for its legal reasoning, but for its use of foreign sources to support its conclusion.
>
>
The Eighth Amendment provides: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment inflicted.” Is executing a juvenile under 18 cruel and unusual? The Supreme Court answered this question in the affirmative in Roper (2005), basing its decisions on some transcendental nonsense. Interestingly, the decision is criticized most often not for its legal reasoning, but for its use of foreign sources to support its conclusion.
 

A. Transcendental nonsense adopted by the Court


WenweiLaiFirstPaper 2 - 26 Feb 2010 - Main.WenweiLai
Line: 1 to 1
 
META TOPICPARENT name="FirstPaper"
Deleted:
<
<
 It is strongly recommended that you include your outline in the body of your essay by using the outline as section titles. The headings below are there to remind you how section and subsection titles are formatted.
Line: 4 to 3
 It is strongly recommended that you include your outline in the body of your essay by using the outline as section titles. The headings below are there to remind you how section and subsection titles are formatted.
Changed:
<
<

Paper Title

>
>

Cruel and Usual Punishment: Transcendental Nonsense and the Functional Approach at the Same Time

 -- By WenweiLai - 25 Feb 2010
Changed:
<
<

Section I: The current cruel and unusual punishment jurisprudence in the Supreme Court

>
>

I. The current cruel and unusual punishment jurisprudence of the Supreme Court: Roper

 
Changed:
<
<

Subsection A: Transcendental nonsense adopted by the Court

>
>
The Eight Amendment provides: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment inflicted.” Is executing a juvenile under 18 cruel and unusual? The Supreme Court answered this question in the affirmative in Roper (2005), basing its decisions on some transcendental nonsense. Interestingly, the decision is criticized most often not for its legal reasoning, but for its use of foreign sources to support its conclusion.
 
Added:
>
>

A. Transcendental nonsense adopted by the Court

 
Changed:
<
<

Subsub 1: "the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society"; "national consensus"

>
>
“The evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society” has been the Court’s test in determining whether a punishment is so disproportionate as to be “cruel and unusual” since a 1958 case. Such a definition falls into what Cohen called a vicious cycle. Court decisions are always part of the evolvement of social standards; sometimes they lead the evolvement. The fact that the Court ruled executing a juvenile unconstitutional made the execution a violation of “the evolving standards.” (Although I don’t have any empirical evidence on this specific question, my reasoning here is based on other countries’ experience in the abolition of death penalty. The public did not think there was anything wrong with death penalty when it was abolished 50 years ago. Fifty years later, the people are uniformly against death penalty.) So it is putting the cart before the horse for the Court to regard “the evolving standards” as a reason for declaring the execution unconstitutional.
 
Changed:
<
<

Subsection B: The Court is, in fact, a realistic Court under the cover of transcendental nonsense- the use of foreign sources

>
>
In Stanford (1989), the case overruled by Roper, another transcendental nonsense was put forward to explain the previous one: “national consensus,” which meant the execution could be abolished only when there was a national consensus that it should no longer exist. If there had been any national consensus, how could this have been hotly debated by the opponents and proponents? This requirement is a convenient tool for the conservatives to uphold the constitutionality of a punishment. However, when a decision tries to keep the national consensus requirement and abolish an existing punishment at the same time, problems will follow.
 
Added:
>
>

B. The Court is, in fact, a realistic Court under the cover of transcendental nonsense

 
Changed:
<
<

Section II: Foreign sources as a functional approach in Constitution interpretation

>
>
In Roper, the majority claimed there had been a national consensus that executing a juvenile was cruel and unusual. Therefore, in citing the international trend toward the same direction, the court was only looking for “confirmation for our own conclusions.” However, there was no such consensus at all: only thirty states had abolished such execution before the Roper decision was made. A sixty percent majority was hardly a “consensus.” It was abolished by the Court not because of a national consensus, but because the instability and the emotional imbalance of young people might often be a factor in the crime, as scientific and sociological research showed. And this opinion was supported by the overwhelming weight of international sources.
 
Changed:
<
<

Subsection A: The use should be justified

>
>

II. Foreign sources as a functional approach in Constitution interpretation

 
Changed:
<
<

Subsub 1: Probing behind: there have been plenty of Supreme Court decisions citing foreign sources

>
>

A. The use of foreign sources should be justified

 
Changed:
<
<

Subsub 2: Projecting forward: the foreign experiences are the best empirical evidence in support of the abolition

>
>
Law is what it does. Therefore, courts are justified in considering what the laws they are making will do. In Cohen’s words, “Only by… projecting beyond the decision the lines of its force upon the future, do we come to an understanding of the meaning of the decision itself.” Scientific and sociological research provides courts with a good source in predicting the effect of the newly-made law. However, the research is only prediction; for empirical evidence, courts must look at other countries where a similar scheme has been in practice for a while. The experiences of other countries can help courts better understand the possible outcome that their judgments will bring about. In this sense, the use of foreign sources is highly justified.
 
Changed:
<
<

Subsection B: So, are the dissenters out of their minds?

>
>

B. So, are the dissenters out of their minds?

 
Changed:
<
<

Subsub 1: The legitimacy of constitutional comparativism should be determined by constitutional theory

>
>
All my reasoning above is based on the assumption that the functional approach, a product of the so-called legal realism, is the correct one. However, this assumption does not hold true to everyone. As Justice Scalia said in his Roper dissent, “this is no way to run a legal system.” According to the legal philosophy which he purports to follow, what the law is today equals what the law was 250 years ago. Therefore, the functional approach is no justification for the use of foreign sources.
 
Changed:
<
<

Subsub 2: Textualism is not a functional approach

>
>

C. Transcendental nonsense from a strategic perspective

 
Added:
>
>
If there had been five Scalias on the bench, executing juveniles would have still been constitutional. There were not, so the liberals got what they wanted. However, they got it at a cost: the Roper decision was a mixture of the functional approach and some transcendental nonsense like “the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society.” The two ideas are incompatible, and the combination causes confusion and ambiguity, just as Blackstone did in throwing Hobbs and Coke together. But we have to be practical here: the majority needed five votes. If they had given up the transcendental nonsense, they would not have got five votes. To get the important fifth vote, the price that had to be paid was to let him (the Roper majority was written by Justice Kennedy) include the transcendental nonsense in the opinion.
 
Added:
>
>
From a purely scholastic point of view, this is a bad approach, and it makes the decision seem fragile in the face of dissenters’ criticism: if it is evidence of a national consensus for which we are looking, then the viewpoints of other countries simply are not relevant. On the other hand, this is a smart approach in practice. The law is what it does, not how it does. As a Chinese leader said, “I don’t care if it’s a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice it’s a good cat.”
 
Deleted:
<
<

Section III: Conclusion: the use of foreign source is justified, and the Court should abandon the use of transcendental nonsense.

 
You are entitled to restrict access to your paper if you want to. But we all derive immense benefit from reading one another's work, and I hope you won't feel the need unless the subject matter is personal and its disclosure would be harmful or undesirable. To restrict access to your paper simply delete the "#" on the next line:

WenweiLaiFirstPaper 1 - 25 Feb 2010 - Main.WenweiLai
Line: 1 to 1
Added:
>
>
META TOPICPARENT name="FirstPaper"

It is strongly recommended that you include your outline in the body of your essay by using the outline as section titles. The headings below are there to remind you how section and subsection titles are formatted.

Paper Title

-- By WenweiLai - 25 Feb 2010

Section I: The current cruel and unusual punishment jurisprudence in the Supreme Court

Subsection A: Transcendental nonsense adopted by the Court

Subsub 1: "the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society"; "national consensus"

Subsection B: The Court is, in fact, a realistic Court under the cover of transcendental nonsense- the use of foreign sources

Section II: Foreign sources as a functional approach in Constitution interpretation

Subsection A: The use should be justified

Subsub 1: Probing behind: there have been plenty of Supreme Court decisions citing foreign sources

Subsub 2: Projecting forward: the foreign experiences are the best empirical evidence in support of the abolition

Subsection B: So, are the dissenters out of their minds?

Subsub 1: The legitimacy of constitutional comparativism should be determined by constitutional theory

Subsub 2: Textualism is not a functional approach

Section III: Conclusion: the use of foreign source is justified, and the Court should abandon the use of transcendental nonsense.


You are entitled to restrict access to your paper if you want to. But we all derive immense benefit from reading one another's work, and I hope you won't feel the need unless the subject matter is personal and its disclosure would be harmful or undesirable. To restrict access to your paper simply delete the "#" on the next line:

# * Set ALLOWTOPICVIEW = TWikiAdminGroup, WenweiLai

Note: TWiki has strict formatting rules. Make sure you preserve the three spaces, asterisk, and extra space at the beginning of that line. If you wish to give access to any other users simply add them to the comma separated list


Revision 3r3 - 01 Mar 2010 - 21:25:29 - WenweiLai
Revision 2r2 - 26 Feb 2010 - 18:52:33 - WenweiLai
Revision 1r1 - 25 Feb 2010 - 04:45:59 - WenweiLai
This site is powered by the TWiki collaboration platform.
All material on this collaboration platform is the property of the contributing authors.
All material marked as authored by Eben Moglen is available under the license terms CC-BY-SA version 4.
Syndicate this site RSSATOM