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WomenInThisBusiness 9 - 22 Apr 2010 - Main.RorySkaggs
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 When we were discussing Cerriere's Answer today, I thought Jessica brought up an interesting point about how women sometimes worry that they come across as "too edgy" when they speak. (Jessica, please correct me if I didn't accurately understand what you were saying). A female friend of mine here has mentioned this very issue to me on a couple occasions. She claims that female students, more often than male students, have a tendency to ask questions instead of make statements, of if they make a statement to soften it with a qualification such as "I feel like...."

Coincidentally, an article posted today on CLS' homepage mentions this as well. Professor Carol Sanger was honored at The Columbia Law Women’s Association annual Myra Bradwell Dinner, and this is a small excerpt from her speech:

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 I would also like to note that I feel weird and creepy even mentioning that interaction with the partner, even though I know for a fact that I'm not at fault in the situation. I still feel implicated in a troubling way - that's a hard feeling to shake, and I don't know whether it's societal or personal to me.

-- CarolineFerrisWhite - 21 Apr 2010

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I can't help but think that Rob's example of the female judge's comments point to a vicious cycle. As a lot of people have been discussing, there is a perceived problem of how to balance femininity with aggressiveness. The women that succeed in the law often tend to be the aggressive ones that play 'the man's game' well, and as such once they get to the higher levels they look for other women who do the same. Thus, only the women who play the game can climb the ladder, even once other women are already there, because the women that are there are looking for the same aggressive qualities which allowed them to succeed.

To me, the problem is why the 'right' amount of aggressiveness is the standard. In contracts last semester, we talked about the idea that the law does not need to be such an adversarial system, but could be more cooperative, a model promulgated by feminist legal scholars. The question then becomes why there is an assumption that the man's way of doing it is what the woman needs to emulate (as others have discussed, a difficult thing to do), and how to overcome that presumption. How to do it I have no idea- it seems like the law fits into Veblen's primitive society, where some work becomes men's work and others women's work (with law, like any other fighting, traditionally being men's). How do we turn what was considered 'men's' work into gender-neutral work, where the tendencies of one gender are as acceptable as the other? And even if we could level the playing field as lawyers so that 'going for the jugular' was not necessarily the expectation, how would litigators overcome the jury's tendency to find the aggressive male norms more persuasive than the cooperative female norms because of wider societal expectations? (FYI- I know plenty of women will say they do not meet these norms, but I'm just using the limited knowledge I have of feminist legal scholarship so please correct me if I'm wrong)

-- RorySkaggs - 22 Apr 2010

 
 
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