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< < | October 2011 : Time to do a check up. France has been trying to sue children for the past three years under HADOPI legislation, and apparently it is not working the way the french government expected it to work. Not efficient, too burdensome. Fair enough, let’s come up with something else. As the next presidential elections will be held in June 2012, the Socialist Party running for presidency is getting ready and is already considering a new project : The Global Licence.
Socialists (few of them though) have been standing against HADOPI and proposed, when the DADVSI legislation was adopted, this Global Licence thing.
Here is the way it would work. In order to « compensate » authors, each and everyone of us, will pay in between 5 and 6 euros a month as an extra on our Internet bills. This « compensation » will be included in the price we pay to Internet Service Providers. That way, we’ll be able to download whatever we want, without being worried about the fines we would have had to pay under HADOPI legislation. Sounds good ?
The idea came out when discussions on DADVSI law took place in 2005 in the French Parliament. The GL had been rejected at that time. The idea was to legalize P2P? exchanges. Internet users will then pay a fixed price to Internet carriers. The money collected would go to « collecting societies » somekind of SACEM (the equivalent of the ASCAP in the US). The money will then be dispatch among authors. Right now P2P? exchanges are not legal under Hadopi law. | > > | October 2011 : Time to do a check up. | | | |
< < | The dispatch would be done according to the « traffic », meaning that the artists would be compensated according to how much people downloaded their work. That sounds fair right ? That way we forget about HADOPI, we download and upload freely (well for few euros at least) and artists get compensated. Why not ? But the questions is how is the dispatch of the money going to be handled ? Pro GL say that it would be enough to calculate the traffic of each artist. So the more an artist is « shared » and downloaded the more money he or she will get. The calculation will be based on popularity. What we are told now is that this system will enable small or unknown artists to get something, even a little bit. No more intermediaries (record company, the music industry in general). Authors would get proper compensation, and that is the most important thing right ? Here we go. The project is obviously designed to protect unknown or non famous artists and we get rid of Hadopi at the same time. At least that what we are being told.
Who is going to calculate the traffic, how is it going to be calculated ? Does it mean that exchanges will be monitored and controlled somehow (more than right now) ? Who will control ? Internet providers, independent societies ? Intrusive surveillance of the flows of datas (already happening but that would become somehow official in this case) ? The calculation would be made according to quantity, the compensation would be done in terms of consumption, not in terms of quality. Again, this new structure would be based on consumption, the key word. And what if I’m encrypting my flow of datas ? | > > | It's a good idea to
write a first sentence that pulls the reader into your subject and
your view of it. This one is passive, generic, and somewhat obscure,
France has been trying to sue children for the past three years under HADOPI legislation,
You don't need to
explain HADOPI for all the non-French readers who have no idea what
it is. Because this is a wiki, you can just link to something that
defines and explains HADOPI, so anyone who needs that information can
simply click. Not linking and not explaining, however, is not
feasible: readers who don't know what you're talking about will
promptly give up. | | | |
> > | and apparently it is not working the way the french government expected it to work. Not efficient, too burdensome. Fair enough, let's come up with something else. As the next presidential elections will be held in June 2012, the Socialist Party running for presidency is getting ready and is already considering a new project : The Global Licence.
Socialists (few of them though) have been standing against HADOPI and proposed, when the DADVSI legislation was adopted, this Global Licence thing. | | | |
> > | Here's a statement of
historical development. You'd want to give people a link to
something that explains the acronym DADVSI anyway, and here's your
chance to link something that will give the backstory to the
proposal.
Here is the way it would work. In order to "compensate" authors,
each and everyone of us, will pay in between 5 and 6 euros a month as
an extra on our Internet bills. This "compensation" will be included
in the price we pay to Internet Service Providers.
Assuming everyone pays
ISPs?
That way,
we'll be able to download whatever we want, without being
worried about the fines we would have had to pay under HADOPI
legislation. Sounds good ? The idea came out when discussions on
DADVSI law took place in 2005 in the French Parliament. The GL had
been rejected at that time.
Second time you've said
this, and you could skip the repetition, saving space, but also the
second time you haven't linked anything for someone who wants to read
up.
The idea was to legalize P2P
exchanges. Internet users will then pay a fixed price to Internet
carriers. The money collected would go to "collecting societies"
some kind of SACEM (the equivalent of the ASCAP in the US). The money
will then be dispatch among authors. Right now P2P exchanges are not
legal under Hadopi law.
Not quite right. What
is not legal under HADOPI is copyright infringement, including
unlicensed peer-to-peer sharing of copyrighted works. All the
non-infringing peer-to-peer sharing of information that happens in
the Internet, which is most of human digital activity because the
Internet is peer-to-peer communication, is still legal. So is use
of tools like Bittorrent to conduct licensed distribution of
copyrighted works. (We members of the human race share petabytes of,
e.g., works under free software and Creative Commons licenses every
day, and all of that would be or is legal even in hexagonal
Sarkozyland.)
The dispatch would be done according to the "traffic," meaning that
the artists would be compensated according to how much people
downloaded their work. That sounds fair right ?
That way we forget about HADOPI, we download and upload freely (well for few euros at least) and artists get compensated. Why not ? But the questions is how is the dispatch of the money going to be handled ? Pro GL say that it would be enough to calculate the traffic of each artist. So the more an artist is « shared » and downloaded the more money he or she will get. The calculation will be based on popularity. What we are told now is that this system will enable small or unknown artists to get something, even a little bit. No more intermediaries (record company, the music industry in general). Authors would get proper compensation, and that is the most important thing right ? Here we go. The project is obviously designed to protect unknown or non famous artists and we get rid of Hadopi at the same time. At least that what we are being told.
Who is going to calculate the traffic, how is it going to be calculated ? Does it mean that exchanges will be monitored and controlled somehow (more than right now) ? Who will control ? Internet providers, independent societies ? Intrusive surveillance of the flows of datas (already happening but that would become somehow official in this case) ? The calculation would be made according to quantity, the compensation would be done in terms of consumption, not in terms of quality. Again, this new structure would be based on consumption, the key word. And what if I'm encrypting my flow of datas ?
Why, what if? The
actual point you are setting up but not making here is that the
system would depend on the maintenance of an insecure and completely
monitored net. In other words, government is proposing to tie its
desire to monitor everything to a scheme that benefits copyright
industries and collecting society parasites disguised under the
apparently unquestionable rectitude of compensating artists. You
could just say that. | | Surprinsingly the debate around the GL has focused on authors and compensation. Compensating artists seems to be an obssession for the GL advocates. And they try to sell us this concept of GL, because it is fair, because it is right, and because that the way it should be. We cannot turn down a project that protects artists right ? | |
< < | But in the end this looks like just another tax. No one in the debate, whether experts or politicians have asked themselves : can people pay for it, do the people want to pay for it ? Right, it is just few more euros on your Internet bill. But believe it or not some can’t just afford to add those 5 or 6 euros ! And why would they anyway. It is not even about about much we will pay, it is about paying for it. Again, we pay or access to culture. The only concerns they have is : would artist be fairly compensated ? who’s going to pay for calculating the traffic ? I hear those concerns. But what I believe is that as long as we don’t want to understand that the structure of all this is wrong we are not going to do anything good. The music industry collapses : face it. The way we access culture is changing : deal with it ! Thinking within a structure of intellectual property does not help at all. You want culture, then pay for it that the way it works now.
Edouard Barreiro, representative of UFC Que Choisir (a french consumer association) said that « people would be more willing to access culture because they would pay for it ». New philosophical statement : I pay, therefore I want. Is that all about it ?
I do not believe this is the solution. It’s hard for France to get away from the « droit d’auteur » culture. I don’t think we need a GL, we need a new economic model. The thinking pattern behind GL is still the same as the one behind Hadopi, art is perceived as a marchandise. Same as Hadopi. But I guess the GL is just a way to sweeten the pill. The fact is that neither the Socialists nor the Conservatives understand that the music industry is slowly dying. No one is talking about patronage, donation is a bad word in my country. The GL is just a honey trap, as inconsistent and unfair as Hadopi is, but very well disguised under what my potential future government calls fairness.
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Section I
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Subsection B
Subsub 1
Subsub 2
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Subsection B | > > | But in the end this looks like just another tax. No one in the debate,
whether experts or politicians have asked themselves : can people pay
for it, do the people want to pay for it ? Right, it is just few more
euros on your Internet bill. But believe it or not some can't just
afford to add those 5 or 6 euros ! And why would they anyway. It is
not even about about much we will pay, it is about paying for
it. Again, we pay or access to culture. The only concerns they have is
: would artist be fairly compensated ? who's going to pay for
calculating the traffic ? I hear those concerns. But what I believe is
that as long as we don't want to understand that the structure of all
this is wrong we are not going to do anything good. The music industry
collapses : face it. The way we access culture is changing : deal with
it ! Thinking within a structure of intellectual property does not
help at all. You want culture, then pay for it that the way it works
now. Edouard Barreiro, representative of UFC Que Choisir (a french
consumer association) said that "people would be more willing to
access culture because they would pay for it." New philosophical
statement : I pay, therefore I want. Is that all about it ?
No, it's just trade
association bullshit. Why bother even quoting it? You can prove
that most trade association propaganda is self-evident crap, but
that's not a big victory. Your own announcement up above that the
owners have to live with the extinction of their industries is pretty
much the same thing, after all. They're not going to. Realism says
you're not going to make culture free to everybody by mere
pronouncement any more than they're going to be able to keep it
proprietary by slinging bullshit at press conferences. The actual
situation is a conflict of incommensurable forces. One of them is
wealthy and powerful in the present, stocked up with purchased
lawmakers in all parties, possessing expensive press agentry and
unlimited resources to make propaganda. The other is weak in the
present, consisting of anarchists making technology and a new style
of politics, possessing the allegiance of a large fraction of the
people who will be running the world in twenty-five years. Right
now, the owners behave strongly and try—unsuccessfully—to
control the future. Later, with an infrastructure of technical
freedom heavily embedded in the entirety of global capitalism, our
young colleagues grow up and take over the world in the ordinary
course of demographic replacement, sweeping away the owners'
institutions just as decisively as the 20th century swept away the
institutions of the ancien régime.
I do not believe this is the solution. It's hard for France to get
away from the "droit d'auteur" culture. I don't think we need a GL, we
need a new economic model. The thinking pattern behind GL is still the
same as the one behind Hadopi, art is perceived as a marchandise. Same
as Hadopi. But I guess the GL is just a way to sweeten the pill. The
fact is that neither the Socialists nor the Conservatives understand
that the music industry is slowly dying. No one is talking about
patronage, donation is a bad word in my country. The GL is just a
honey trap, as inconsistent and unfair as Hadopi is, but very well
disguised under what my potential future government calls fairness.
It might be interesting
to inquire what difference it makes what "France" wants. "France"
can set the price at which people buy packet-moving services.
"France" can make claims about what technology is available or usable
by citizens, but only to the extent that it can fulminate
prohibitions that may or may not actually reflect what happens. It
cannot, as you point out at the beginning, actually implement, with
any sufficiently tolerable expenditure of resources, something like
the "three strikes, you're out" mechanism of HADOPI; its bluff on
that subject has now been called. Isn't "France" just another
clapped-out fundamentally weakened system of political corruption,
about to blow its banks and its postwar dream of civilizing the
Teutons for the ninety-seventh time since the Gothic invasions? When
all is said and done, who cares what "France" says on this subject?
Everyone can see quite clearly that the rules make no actual
difference at all to what music people listen to, or what films they
watch, even inside the hexagon during the closing hours of the Fifth
Republic. | |
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The Global License :Smoke and mirrors.
October 2011 : Time to do a check up. France has been trying to sue children for the past three years under HADOPI legislation, and apparently it is not working the way the french government expected it to work. Not efficient, too burdensome. Fair enough, let’s come up with something else. As the next presidential elections will be held in June 2012, the Socialist Party running for presidency is getting ready and is already considering a new project : The Global Licence.
Socialists (few of them though) have been standing against HADOPI and proposed, when the DADVSI legislation was adopted, this Global Licence thing.
Here is the way it would work. In order to « compensate » authors, each and everyone of us, will pay in between 5 and 6 euros a month as an extra on our Internet bills. This « compensation » will be included in the price we pay to Internet Service Providers. That way, we’ll be able to download whatever we want, without being worried about the fines we would have had to pay under HADOPI legislation. Sounds good ?
The idea came out when discussions on DADVSI law took place in 2005 in the French Parliament. The GL had been rejected at that time. The idea was to legalize P2P? exchanges. Internet users will then pay a fixed price to Internet carriers. The money collected would go to « collecting societies » somekind of SACEM (the equivalent of the ASCAP in the US). The money will then be dispatch among authors. Right now P2P? exchanges are not legal under Hadopi law.
The dispatch would be done according to the « traffic », meaning that the artists would be compensated according to how much people downloaded their work. That sounds fair right ? That way we forget about HADOPI, we download and upload freely (well for few euros at least) and artists get compensated. Why not ? But the questions is how is the dispatch of the money going to be handled ? Pro GL say that it would be enough to calculate the traffic of each artist. So the more an artist is « shared » and downloaded the more money he or she will get. The calculation will be based on popularity. What we are told now is that this system will enable small or unknown artists to get something, even a little bit. No more intermediaries (record company, the music industry in general). Authors would get proper compensation, and that is the most important thing right ? Here we go. The project is obviously designed to protect unknown or non famous artists and we get rid of Hadopi at the same time. At least that what we are being told.
Who is going to calculate the traffic, how is it going to be calculated ? Does it mean that exchanges will be monitored and controlled somehow (more than right now) ? Who will control ? Internet providers, independent societies ? Intrusive surveillance of the flows of datas (already happening but that would become somehow official in this case) ? The calculation would be made according to quantity, the compensation would be done in terms of consumption, not in terms of quality. Again, this new structure would be based on consumption, the key word. And what if I’m encrypting my flow of datas ?
Surprinsingly the debate around the GL has focused on authors and compensation. Compensating artists seems to be an obssession for the GL advocates. And they try to sell us this concept of GL, because it is fair, because it is right, and because that the way it should be. We cannot turn down a project that protects artists right ?
But in the end this looks like just another tax. No one in the debate, whether experts or politicians have asked themselves : can people pay for it, do the people want to pay for it ? Right, it is just few more euros on your Internet bill. But believe it or not some can’t just afford to add those 5 or 6 euros ! And why would they anyway. It is not even about about much we will pay, it is about paying for it. Again, we pay or access to culture. The only concerns they have is : would artist be fairly compensated ? who’s going to pay for calculating the traffic ? I hear those concerns. But what I believe is that as long as we don’t want to understand that the structure of all this is wrong we are not going to do anything good. The music industry collapses : face it. The way we access culture is changing : deal with it ! Thinking within a structure of intellectual property does not help at all. You want culture, then pay for it that the way it works now.
Edouard Barreiro, representative of UFC Que Choisir (a french consumer association) said that « people would be more willing to access culture because they would pay for it ». New philosophical statement : I pay, therefore I want. Is that all about it ?
I do not believe this is the solution. It’s hard for France to get away from the « droit d’auteur » culture. I don’t think we need a GL, we need a new economic model. The thinking pattern behind GL is still the same as the one behind Hadopi, art is perceived as a marchandise. Same as Hadopi. But I guess the GL is just a way to sweeten the pill. The fact is that neither the Socialists nor the Conservatives understand that the music industry is slowly dying. No one is talking about patronage, donation is a bad word in my country. The GL is just a honey trap, as inconsistent and unfair as Hadopi is, but very well disguised under what my potential future government calls fairness.
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-- By NatachaEsteves - 14 Oct 2011
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Subsection A
Subsub 1
Subsection B
Subsub 1
Subsub 2
Section II
Subsection A
Subsection B
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