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WhereIsTheAdvertisingIOrdered 8 - 23 Oct 2009 - Main.BrianS
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When advertising is done poorly, it can be grating. It is intrusive and annoying. When it is done slightly better, it can be even more annoying. People feel violated. When advertising is done well, it seems wonderful. Professor Moglen gave the example of someone offering us our favorite pizza slice at exactly the right time. Two hundred years ago, such good service could only be obtained through a very attentive butler. | | | Thanks Nikolaos, yes, I may have been a bit too rash when I gave my response (in all caps, no less), since I was excited at how artists can profit from a copyright free world. And yes you make good points about "anarchy driven advertising" or "anarchy driven distribution". Google and Facebook distribution is not an anarchic distribution model anyway, which goes back to someone having control over the distribution scheme. I'm starting to see how Google and Facebook could be the SonyBMG? of the future, in that artists have to go through Sony in order for their songs to be released into the market. But then could one not create a million Digg accounts and Digg a song all the way to the top of the "must listens"? Like there are now companies who specialize in making a youtube clip go viral who create multiple Youtube accounts to start discussions on a video, having an appealing "screen shot" serve as the "cover photo" (they say faces work best).
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Re: "This is the insurmountable obstacle faced by those who try to fight for human freedom. This is what has wearied them, made them disillusioned. This is what would make even victory hollow. For what gift do you bestow on someone who does not value it? How can there be solidarity if you spurn dignity?"
This seems a bit much to me. One problem is that we seem to have presupposed that A's concept of dignity matches B's concept of dignity. The contrast between StevenWu? 's initial question and ElidedElided? 's response seems to show clearly that we do not all agree on what is an is not an insult to dignity. And for something like dignity, I don't know that someone's personal concept of dignity can be 'incorrect.'
That said, I agree with StephenClarke? 's summation: this is a difficult question. And it is so for precisely the reason just identified (among other reasons); we do not all agree on what is an insult to dignity, or on the appropriate level of what is essentially surveillance.
I would instead suggest an approach that does not categorically insist A's concept of dignity is correct, and thereby institute policies that devalue B's concept of dignity (which I believe is equally valuable to A's). A fair response to my suggestion, however, is that it is difficult to do that.
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