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-- By EldonWright - 18 April 2009 | | My intuition is that the best marriage of personal life and professional practice can be achieved by representing a community you closely identify with, whether as a real estate lawyer in the hometown you love or as an environmental lawyer and avid hiker. This sort of arrangement seems like it might create meaningful opportunities for professional life to contribute to the personal, and vice versa. Even then, though, family relationships seem like they might be difficult to maintain.
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- Michael's point strikes me as worth more consideration than it seems to have been given in the course of your revision. The identification of your practice with "the way [you] make money," which is assumed in the first paragraph, colors the remainder of the logic. That one's practice might be a primary source of meaning in one's life, not in conflict with the rest of one's value commitments, hardly seems to depend on a theory of "otherworldly spiritual fulfillment." As I pointed out the first time around, the story would have been equally credible if the worldly positions of the grandfathers had been exchanged, and the temperaments remained the same. But your account continues to stack the deck against the lawyer grandfather. What you present as a discovery of equality continues to hold inside it a second persona's (no doubt emotionally justified) bias against a hurtful, emotionally crippled presence.
- But if you can see the piece as it might have been on the other side of letting go, it would have fallen naturally into being about how the supposed dichotomy of money and meaning keeps people from looking for, and finding, ways to make money doing what they believe is not only meaningful to them, but to those around them whom they value and respect. The false dichotomy between money and meaning releases this "lawyer" we are becoming from the requirement to solve both the problem of doing good and the problem of doing well. Whether from the perspective of the "hired hand," or of the "respectable" professional man exclusively concerned with the welfare of his old father in the Vale of Taunton and his three daughters at home, the lawyer succeeds in numbing the pain of some truth or another—either that he has neglected his commitment to his loved ones or that she has elided her commitment to the attainment of justice—by dissociation, by splitting aspects and personalities from one another, in a damaging way.
- The dissociation and its consequences hover round your essay, perhaps as a consequence of the psychic distress in which your grandfather found himself. But not acknowledged, which I think is the beginning of seeing with sufficient clarity to transcend. That, in my opinion, is how to begin to lift your "plague of disenchantment."
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You're Not Your Job...Really? | > > | -- By EldonWright - 18 April 2009 | | | |
< < | Much of the discussion regarding our career options has revolved around law firm versus public interest, the various practices of law, or the significance of picking our clients relative to the assignment of indigent defendants or corporations. This makes sense. We are in law school, and the prospect of discussion on these topics was a central reason many of us chose this course. How we go about weighing the various alternatives has even been broken down between selfishness and selflessness. This may be the most useful designation I have heard. | | | |
< < | What I’ve thought about on the periphery of class or Wiki discussions is that students should not become too constrained by thinking in terms of legal career to forget the impact and legacy one can forge outside of how one makes their money. This is not to say nuanced consideration of potential career paths shouldn’t be an important, and at this juncture, central part of your thoughts on the matter. However, if a BigLaw or Public Interest position would affect your schedule or personality to such an extent you no longer partook of the activities or interactions that produced the peace in your life or happiness for those around you, than it’s probably not for you regardless of the work you are doing, and regardless of any sort of consideration of the social benefit you are enacting through the practice of the law. Selfishly considering these repercussions seems vital in determining your place in the law. | > > | Look Inward
Students should not become so concerned with the first steps of their legal career trajectory that they forget the impact and legacy they can forge outside of how they make money. This is not to say you should cast your fate to the wind. At this juncture, a nuanced consideration of potential career paths should be a central part of your thoughts on the matter. However, if a BigLaw or Public Interest position would impinge on your schedule or personality to such an extent you no longer partook of the activities or interactions that produced the peace in your life or happiness for those around you, then it is probably not for you, regardless of the work you are doing, and regardless of any sort of social benefit you are enacting through the practice of the law. | | A Lengthy Anecdote | |
< < | | | By all external measures this man’s career was something righteous and socially meaningful. Funding his education through the G.I. Bill, and despite dyslexia, Grandpa Gene persevered to attend Boalt Hall, becoming one of three public defenders for the whole of Orange County, California, and later a notably socially-progressive judge. There is a legacy of important cases won, judicious decision made, and everybody’s favorite down at the bar personality displayed. However the man was also a moody drunk who preferred golf to his family, on his fourth marriage when he died in his sleep from alcohol related heart failure. Though he was able to keep up appearances, my mother’s childhood was beset with cold, late dinners, missed recitals, and dishes broken out of anger. My relationship with him consisted of lengthy absences followed by brief, predictably strained Christmas dinners and generous checks tucked inside message-less birthday cards. The eggshells my family walked on during our scattered gatherings confirmed why we chose to spend significantly more time with Grandpa Eldon and Granny, though they lived eight hours further away. | |
> > | Growing up in rural Oklahoma, Eldon’s education ended in grade school, and by fifteen he worked full time in Roosevelt’s Civilian Conservation Corps. He would go on to serve as a career Army mechanic during World War II and the Korean War, never rising above the rank of sergeant. His retirement was spent supplementing his army pension by fixing lawnmowers on a small farm. That he was not the most educated or professionally notable man mattered little to those around him. No one really discusses his career of radiators replaced and engines refurbished; instead, he is remembered as a beloved patriarch and vital member of his community. As one who effected more change and joy through personal interactions than paid positions.
While Gene’s life fit neatly into traditional academic and professional definitions of success, the same standard hangs awkwardly on Eldon’s shoulders since it fails to take into account the warmth and character of a man respected by all whose lives he graced. So, how does one measure the relative success of a man who celebrated his 60th wedding anniversary in the company of 300 loving guests; and who, for years, quietly ran errands for shut-in neighbors and served his church’s mentally challenged members? | | | |
< < | Eldon never went to law school; in fact, he never made it to high school. Growing up in rural Oklahoma, his education ended in grade school, and by fifteen he worked full time in Roosevelt’s Civilian Conservation Corps. He would go on to serve as a career Army mechanic during World War II and the Korean War, never rising above the rank of sergeant. His retirement was spent supplementing his army pension by fixing lawnmowers on a small farm. That he was not the most educated or professionally notable man mattered little to those around him. And no one really discusses his career of radiators replaced and engines refurbished, though it was doubtless important to someone at the time. Instead he is remembered as a beloved patriarch and vital member of his community, affecting more change and joy through personal interactions than paid positions.
While Gene’s life fit neatly into traditional academic and professional definitions of success, the same standard hangs awkwardly on Eldon’s shoulders, since it fails to take into account the warmth and character of a man respected by all whose lives he graced. So, how does one measure the relative success of a man who celebrated his 60th wedding anniversary in the company of 300 loving guests; or who, for years, quietly ran errands for shut-in neighbors and served his church’s mentally challenged members? | | Moral of the Story | |
> > | I am plagued by a certain amount of disenchantment with the idea that some sort of otherworldly spiritual fulfillment can be found in directing one’s legal career on a certain trajectory. As my grandpas’ divergent lives remind me, professional accomplishments can mean little when measured against the spirit of one’s life.
Worrying about external indicators of what constitutes a “good” position in the legal profession makes about as much sense as looking outside yourself for what constitutes inner-peace. Whether it be serving as council for the indigenous people of The International Cause of the Week Club, or working toward becoming King M&A Partner in a massive global practice, your decision must hold the capacity for maximizing your whole self—on whatever scale or against whatever standards you personally trust as worthy. If it does not have this potential, it seems doubtful your choice will allow for much personal satisfaction or growth. In the end I sincerely hope that each of us will be more than their hopefully celebrated and relevant legal career. | | | |
< < | I am plagued by a certain amount of disenchantment with the idea that some sort of otherworldly spiritual fulfillment can be found in directing one’s legal career on a certain trajectory. As my grandpas’ divergent lives remind me, professional accomplishments can mean little when measured against the spirit of one’s life. So maybe don’t worry too much about uncovering the apparent incongruities of BigLaw or Public Interest work. Instead, turn the focus inward to selfishly being true to yourself in a larger-than-legal sense. In the end I sincerely hope that each of us will be more than their hopefully celebrated and relevant legal career.
Worrying about external indicators of what constitutes a “good” position in the legal profession makes about as much sense as looking outside of yourself for what constitutes inner-peace. Whether it be serving as council for the indigenous people of The International Cause of the Week Club, or working toward becoming King M&A Partner in a massive global practice, your decision must hold the capacity for maximizing your whole self—on whatever scale or against whatever standards you personally trust as worthy. If it does not have this potential, it seems doubtful your choice will allow for much personal satisfaction or growth. | | | |
< < | The irony that of all the topics presented by this course, I selfishly chose myself and my background is not lost on me. I can’t help it. Of late, this job stuff consumes my thoughts. | > > | “Okay to be Wylie for 750k? But not the other lawyers in the story?”
The above question proffered by Moglen particularly struck me. The image that immediately came to mind was that of line with a heading like “Character” on one end with “$$$” on the other. Upon reading that latest excerpt from Lawyerland, the world weariness Wylie, and later the four associates that had left his firm made me grimace. I had managed to comfort myself with reassuring whispers that I my life would never venture quite so far down that road. Put in the terms, however, I cannot say with any degree of certainty that my convictions know no monetary bounds. I am not certain many people’s do. It is a troubling reality I must grapple with in the very near future.
One of the more heartening characters was Shana Urquart. No, she didn’t have an especially glamorous position, or righteously seek justice for the have-nots. She was just a regular old associate at a regular old law firm, a happily married mother, and of all the characters she appeared to live the life most readily approaching a work-life balance. "Everything's moving so fast!...It takes so much energy just to find time—any time—to just slow it all down a little. I know that sounds a bit dire, but that's not how I mean it" (p. 56). She likely wasn’t a perfect attorney or a perfect mother, but unlike Wylie, she seemed more willing to focus on the other aspects of her life. And maybe that is a reasonable goal we can all work towards. Upon leaving Columbia, the legal profession will offer powerful incentives to prioritize the goals of our employers or clients over our personal lives. Find a way to practice law in a manner that allows you to achieve fulfillment and positively affect your life both within and outside of the law. Regardless of what kind of law it is, to what end, or on what pay scale. | | | |
< < | I share qualities with both my grandfathers, and while I fall well short of either man’s achievements, I aspire to the profession of one imbued with the character of the other. To be sure, I have yet to discovery where exactly this will direct me. Though, it is looking increasingly likely that it will not be in a high-rise in Midtown. I suspect that sort of position would not provide the professional setting that would allow me to become the individual I would like to see myself as: in law or in life. | | | |
< < | Find a way to practice law in a manner that allows you to achieve fulfillment and positively affect your life both within and outside of the law. Regardless of what kind of law it is, to what end, or on what pay scale.
- I suspect we agree that if the CVs had been swapped the characters would still have seemed coherent: one could have been the drunk full of barely repressed rage as well as the other. Choosing one's life work is a luxury, not given to most people, and whether one chooses well or ill, the other challenges presented by our lives must still be dealt with. So anyone who was disposed to confuse character with occupation is well-reminded by your essay as it stands. But I wonder whether what is presently "consuming [your] thoughts" isn't an unproductive redirection of anxiety. You have a close grip on the issues of character to which the essay devotes itself. The discovery of your intellectual and temperamental strengths as a lawyer, on the other hand, remains to be made. Writing about things other than yourself here is a way to help make them.
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EldonWrightFirstPaper 3 - 30 Mar 2009 - Main.MichaelDreibelbis
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I wonder if the nature of the legal profession might tend to crowd out personal life in favor of our practice. Success in the legal profession seems to require an inordinate investment of time and energy--even aside from the billable hours. The adversarial system, the duty to zealously represent a client, and the legal culture they generate create powerful incentives to prioritize our work over our personal lives. Furthermore, this dynamic seems like it might exist even outside of Midtown. Whether representing faceless companies, endangered species, or “The People,” a lawyer is ultimately just a hired hand, a role which probably does not lend itself well to cultivating real relationships in most cases.
My intuition is that the best marriage of personal life and professional practice can be achieved by representing a community you closely identify with, whether as a real estate lawyer in the hometown you love or as an environmental lawyer and avid hiker. This sort of arrangement seems like it might create meaningful opportunities for professional life to contribute to the personal, and vice versa. Even then, though, family relationships seem like they might be difficult to maintain.
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< < | It is strongly recommended that you include your outline in the body of your essay by using the outline as section titles. The headings below are there to remind you how section and subsection titles are formatted. | > > | | | Trust Yourself | | Find a way to practice law in a manner that allows you to achieve fulfillment and positively affect your life both within and outside of the law. Regardless of what kind of law it is, to what end, or on what pay scale. | |
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- I suspect we agree that if the CVs had been swapped the characters would still have seemed coherent: one could have been the drunk full of barely repressed rage as well as the other. Choosing one's life work is a luxury, not given to most people, and whether one chooses well or ill, the other challenges presented by our lives must still be dealt with. So anyone who was disposed to confuse character with occupation is well-reminded by your essay as it stands. But I wonder whether what is presently "consuming [your] thoughts" isn't an unproductive redirection of anxiety. You have a close grip on the issues of character to which the essay devotes itself. The discovery of your intellectual and temperamental strengths as a lawyer, on the other hand, remains to be made. Writing about things other than yourself here is a way to help make them.
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EldonWrightFirstPaper 1 - 03 Mar 2009 - Main.EldonWright
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Trust Yourself
-- By EldonWright - 03 Mar 2009
You're Not Your Job...Really?
Much of the discussion regarding our career options has revolved around law firm versus public interest, the various practices of law, or the significance of picking our clients relative to the assignment of indigent defendants or corporations. This makes sense. We are in law school, and the prospect of discussion on these topics was a central reason many of us chose this course. How we go about weighing the various alternatives has even been broken down between selfishness and selflessness. This may be the most useful designation I have heard.
What I’ve thought about on the periphery of class or Wiki discussions is that students should not become too constrained by thinking in terms of legal career to forget the impact and legacy one can forge outside of how one makes their money. This is not to say nuanced consideration of potential career paths shouldn’t be an important, and at this juncture, central part of your thoughts on the matter. However, if a BigLaw or Public Interest position would affect your schedule or personality to such an extent you no longer partook of the activities or interactions that produced the peace in your life or happiness for those around you, than it’s probably not for you regardless of the work you are doing, and regardless of any sort of consideration of the social benefit you are enacting through the practice of the law. Selfishly considering these repercussions seems vital in determining your place in the law.
A Lengthy Anecdote
By all external measures this man’s career was something righteous and socially meaningful. Funding his education through the G.I. Bill, and despite dyslexia, Grandpa Gene persevered to attend Boalt Hall, becoming one of three public defenders for the whole of Orange County, California, and later a notably socially-progressive judge. There is a legacy of important cases won, judicious decision made, and everybody’s favorite down at the bar personality displayed. However the man was also a moody drunk who preferred golf to his family, on his fourth marriage when he died in his sleep from alcohol related heart failure. Though he was able to keep up appearances, my mother’s childhood was beset with cold, late dinners, missed recitals, and dishes broken out of anger. My relationship with him consisted of lengthy absences followed by brief, predictably strained Christmas dinners and generous checks tucked inside message-less birthday cards. The eggshells my family walked on during our scattered gatherings confirmed why we chose to spend significantly more time with Grandpa Eldon and Granny, though they lived eight hours further away.
Eldon never went to law school; in fact, he never made it to high school. Growing up in rural Oklahoma, his education ended in grade school, and by fifteen he worked full time in Roosevelt’s Civilian Conservation Corps. He would go on to serve as a career Army mechanic during World War II and the Korean War, never rising above the rank of sergeant. His retirement was spent supplementing his army pension by fixing lawnmowers on a small farm. That he was not the most educated or professionally notable man mattered little to those around him. And no one really discusses his career of radiators replaced and engines refurbished, though it was doubtless important to someone at the time. Instead he is remembered as a beloved patriarch and vital member of his community, affecting more change and joy through personal interactions than paid positions.
While Gene’s life fit neatly into traditional academic and professional definitions of success, the same standard hangs awkwardly on Eldon’s shoulders, since it fails to take into account the warmth and character of a man respected by all whose lives he graced. So, how does one measure the relative success of a man who celebrated his 60th wedding anniversary in the company of 300 loving guests; or who, for years, quietly ran errands for shut-in neighbors and served his church’s mentally challenged members?
Moral of the Story
I am plagued by a certain amount of disenchantment with the idea that some sort of otherworldly spiritual fulfillment can be found in directing one’s legal career on a certain trajectory. As my grandpas’ divergent lives remind me, professional accomplishments can mean little when measured against the spirit of one’s life. So maybe don’t worry too much about uncovering the apparent incongruities of BigLaw or Public Interest work. Instead, turn the focus inward to selfishly being true to yourself in a larger-than-legal sense. In the end I sincerely hope that each of us will be more than their hopefully celebrated and relevant legal career.
Worrying about external indicators of what constitutes a “good” position in the legal profession makes about as much sense as looking outside of yourself for what constitutes inner-peace. Whether it be serving as council for the indigenous people of The International Cause of the Week Club, or working toward becoming King M&A Partner in a massive global practice, your decision must hold the capacity for maximizing your whole self—on whatever scale or against whatever standards you personally trust as worthy. If it does not have this potential, it seems doubtful your choice will allow for much personal satisfaction or growth.
The irony that of all the topics presented by this course, I selfishly chose myself and my background is not lost on me. I can’t help it. Of late, this job stuff consumes my thoughts.
I share qualities with both my grandfathers, and while I fall well short of either man’s achievements, I aspire to the profession of one imbued with the character of the other. To be sure, I have yet to discovery where exactly this will direct me. Though, it is looking increasingly likely that it will not be in a high-rise in Midtown. I suspect that sort of position would not provide the professional setting that would allow me to become the individual I would like to see myself as: in law or in life.
Find a way to practice law in a manner that allows you to achieve fulfillment and positively affect your life both within and outside of the law. Regardless of what kind of law it is, to what end, or on what pay scale.
You are entitled to restrict access to your paper if you want to. But we all derive immense benefit from reading one another's work, and I hope you won't feel the need unless the subject matter is personal and its disclosure would be harmful or undesirable.
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